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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Wed May 25, 2011 2:39 pm

Damn my first Lili Ledy figure and I have had it for years without knowing it :I am stupid: gures

I will search for more Lili Ledy figures in my own collection before I get that Bank Loan, maybe I get lucky again bounce
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Wed May 25, 2011 2:52 pm

hey buddy if that weapon came from a klaatu figure then the klaatu will proberbly be ledy allso it will have most lightley come off a mim card
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Wed May 25, 2011 3:05 pm

@jason11272stacey wrote:
hey buddy if that weapon came from a klaatu figure then the klaatu will proberbly be ledy allso it will have most lightley come off a mim card

Ohhhh I did thought about that. But the helmet came from a kenner figure.

But I will look into the klaatu figures that I have. I just first need to know how a Lili Ledy Klaatu looks like.
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Wed May 25, 2011 9:19 pm

@pomse2001 wrote:

But I will look into the klaatu figures that I have. I just first need to know how a Lili Ledy Klaatu looks like.

Congrats Lars on your first Ledy figure, funny it was there all in the time in your collection just waiting to be discovered.

The Ledy Klaatu is easy to pick out cause he has a furry skirt. I think most MIM Klaatus came with a Kenner skirt, or with a flat Ledy skirt when you were lucky. Check his entry on page 6 of this thread.

Klaatu: Lili Ledy on the right


Lili Ledy Klaatu: Flat fur with leather belt (thx Jason!)




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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu May 26, 2011 7:29 am

Thanks again guys, sorry no luck with the Klaatu :noooooo:
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Fri May 27, 2011 1:48 am

@pomse2001 wrote:
Thanks again guys, sorry no luck with the Klaatu :noooooo:

No worries Lars, just keep a close look on the classifieds and ebay. He appears quite regularly, well at least for a Ledy. Very Happy

Next figure entry is to celebrate your newly discovered Ledy Lando Skiff.
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Fri May 27, 2011 1:52 am


Lando Skiff Guard



COO guide for Lando Skiff: No. 4 is unique for Lili Ledy


NOTE:
  • The Ledy Lando Skiff has an unique COO (no. 4). In the pics below a comparison is made with a Kenner Lando Skiff having COO no. 3.



Lando Skiff: Lili Ledy on the right


Lando Skiff: Lili Ledy on the right


Lando Skiff: Lili Ledy on the right


Lando Skiff: Lili Ledy on the right


Lando Skiff: Lili Ledy on the right


Lando Skiff: Lili Ledy on the right


DIFFERENCES:
Compared to his Kenner (no COO) counterpart, the Ledy Lando Skiff has:
- a differently sculpted left thumb (see pic below)
- a darker skin (face, hands)
- a darker matt brown instead of glossy light brown leather jacket
- creamier pants
- glossy instead of matt brown boots
- an unique COO (COO no. 4).



ACCESSORIES
  • The Ledy Lando Skiff came with a darker grey vibroblade which is made from a different mould compared to its Kenner counterpart. The Ledy vibroblade has a thicker blade and top compared to Kenner.
    In addition the Ledy vibroblade can have a small "A" or "B", but also appears w/o any letter.




    Ledy (left), Kenner (right). Note the thicker blade and top for the Ledy vibroblade. (Pic kindly provided by Starwizz)


  • The Ledy Lando Skiff wears a helmet which is lighter brown compared to the Kenner helmet. The helmet has mould circles which differ from the Kenner version.





LEDY VARIATIONS
There is an interesting variation of the Ledy Lando Skiff wearing gold instead of silver armour. Whether this is a true variation or caused by discolouration of the silver dye is still under debate. It looks cool anyway. Very Happy

Lili Ledy Lando Skiff Guards: Silver (left) and golden (right) chest plate.





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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Fri May 27, 2011 4:10 am

@Dr Dengar wrote:
@pomse2001 wrote:
Thanks again guys, sorry no luck with the Klaatu :noooooo:

No worries Lars, just keep a close look on the classifieds and ebay. He appears quite regularly, well at least for a Ledy. Very Happy

Next figure entry is to celebrate your newly discovered Ledy Lando Skiff.

Thanks again, I will try to look after it Very Happy but first I will try to ID all my other figures. Maybe I have more Lili Ledy figures in my collection.
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Fri May 27, 2011 8:13 am

An info about how to ID the Lili Ledy Biker scout ?

I think I have a Lili Ledy Biker Scout, but I am not sure.

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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Fri May 27, 2011 8:30 am

The Ledy Biker Scout is easy to identify. Apart from an unique COO he has a short mouth.

Biker Scouts: Ledy on the right
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Fri May 27, 2011 9:17 am

Damn I found 3 Biker Scouts in my collection with a small mouth are they all Lili Ledy ?

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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Fri May 27, 2011 9:45 am

Sure they are!! Your luck didn't run out yet. Very Happy

Double check: do they all have the COO as seen below?

Biker Scout COOs: Ledy on the right


Difficult to see but you might even have two different variants among these three figures.

Can you make some close ups of the belly areas for these three figures pls? The wrinkles in the belly as well as the shape of the "V" buckle tell you which variant you are dealing with.

Maybe you are really lucky and can find a dark grey Biker Scout blaster as well.
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Fri May 27, 2011 1:11 pm

Here is the pictures you asked for. For me they all look like variants. Some also shine more than others.








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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Fri May 27, 2011 6:13 pm

Thanks for the pictures Lars.

The COO is correct as expected. I have once seen pics of a short mask Biker Scout with a different COO (Hong Kong), but this was probably a head swap.

The black paint on Biker Scout can be matt or glossy. You see that often with black paint applied on Ledy figures. For instance the boots of Madine, the belt of AT-ST driver, the eye patch of Prune Face, and probably many more examples.

Your Scouts all have the same mould having 5 belly wrinkles in total. The two other molds have 4 and 7 wrinkles.

Have you already searched for the dark grey blaster in your collection?

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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Fri May 27, 2011 7:29 pm

Marco,
I love to read your threads, well done!!!
Keep on doing such a great Job!!!
Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Fri May 27, 2011 9:41 pm

Ola Javi,

muchas gracias por sus elogios, y bueno verte escribiendo aquí. Very Happy

Do you have a PBP Ben Kenobi in your collection by any chance?. I was just wondering whether the traits indicated below are common for PBP/Ledy.
  • Extended index finger
  • Thicker sole
  • Extended left foot


Other members are also very much welcomed to check their PBP-Ledy Bens off course and post the outcome here.







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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Sat May 28, 2011 4:52 am

I have maid some better pictures and searched the figures as good as I can.

Figure 1.





1. The knee is smaller, especially the V on the top of the knee.

2. There is only one line over the 2 lines on the stomach.

3. The V is smaller on the belt it does not fill out the square.

4. The legs are very spread.

Figure 2.



1. The knee is bigger, especially the V on the top of the knee.

2. There is 2 lines over the 2 other lines on the stomach.

3. The V is bigger on the belt it does fill out the square.

4. The legs are not as spread as figure 1.

Figure 3.





Is mostly the same as figure 2. But.

1. The legs are not very spread as figure 1 and 2 is.

2. The V on the belt is not as high as the V on figure 2 but it fills out the square. But the square does not look as high as the one on figure 2.

3. The big line in the center of the stomach goes not as high up on the stomach as on figure 1 and 2.

Sorry about the bad pictures it is very hard to take good pictures of those figures.
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Sat May 28, 2011 5:18 am

Hi Lars,

Thanks for posting. You are still lucky. Why?

Based upon the belly wrinkels, and "V" buckle, I can now clearly see two different variants.
  • Figure 1: 4 belly wrinkles (Ledy mould no. 3)
  • Figure 2: 5 belly wrinkles (Ledy mould no. 2)
  • Figure 3: 5 belly wrinkles (Ledy mould no. 2)


All other small differences you noted (stance, deeper lines etc.) are probably due to small batch to bacth variations during the production process using the same mould and/or ageing of the mould.


See the overview pic below, starring Dan's (aka swvintagefan) and James's (aka aussiejames) Biker Scout figures.



BTW: In the pics you posted yesterday I can only see the 5 wrinkles version for all three figures. Maybe a small mistake while copying your pics into the post?

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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Sat May 28, 2011 5:29 am

Hi again I can see I do not have no. 1 Sad

I just found out something more.

On the heel on each leg on each figure there is a little no. It is very hard to see and hard to take pictures of.

on figure 1 left heel no. 1 right heel no. 2

on figure 2 left heel no. 3 right heel no. 4.

on figure 3 left heel no. 7 right heel no. 6

Very strange.

Is there no. on the figures you have ?
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Sat May 28, 2011 5:45 am

This is exactly what I like about discussing things in this thread, we both have learned something at the end of the day!!!

I never saw these numbers before, but they are there for certain. Very Happy
My Biker Scout has Mould no.2 (5 belly wrinkles) and judged from the picture (use CTRL + mouse wheel to magnify), I would say for my figure:
- left heel: no number,
- right heel: no. 8.


Biker Scout COOs: Ledy on the right



I guess these numbers were used to indicate the different leg moulds which were used during production. In this way Quality Control could trace possible artifacts back to the specific leg mould. You see numbers on many accessories, but I have never seen them on the figures themselves.

Great small discovery, Lars!!!


BTW: The Taiwan figure in the pic doesn't have any numbers on the heels.
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Sat May 28, 2011 6:11 am

I have tried to take pictures of the no. but I can't get the no. on the pictures maybe I do it wrong or my camera is not as good as the one you have.

But then I must have 3 variants of this figure ?

I could only find one Lili Ledy Gun Sad

But on the other side some days ago I did not know that I had Lili Ledy figures.

And now I have total 4 Lili Ledy figures Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Sat May 28, 2011 6:29 am

@Dr Dengar wrote:
This is exactly what I like about discussing things in this thread, we both have learned something at the end of the day!!!

Not just you two, I'm loving all this great info your discovering Marco, Well spoted pomse Very Happy
That means there's a hell of a lot of Ledy biker variant possibility's. This also explains why a lot of the figures I have in my collection have the same coos but slightly different positions. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Sat May 28, 2011 8:30 am

@Dr Dengar wrote:
Ola Javi,

muchas gracias por sus elogios, y bueno verte escribiendo aquí. Very Happy

Do you have a PBP Ben Kenobi in your collection by any chance?. I was just wondering whether the traits indicated below are common for PBP/Ledy.
  • Extended index finger
  • Thicker sole
  • Extended left foot


Other members are also very much welcomed to check their PBP-Ledy Bens off course and post the outcome here.










Hi Marco ,
i do have The PBP Kenobi and is almost the same as LL figure.A while back i had both in hands and i couldnt see any major differences.
Hope this helps
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Sat May 28, 2011 8:37 am

@Dr Dengar wrote:
Hi Lars,

Thanks for posting. You are still lucky. Why?

Based upon the belly wrinkels, and "V" buckle, I can now clearly see two different variants.
  • Figure 1: 4 belly wrinkles (Ledy mould no. 3)
  • Figure 2: 5 belly wrinkles (Ledy mould no. 2)
  • Figure 3: 5 belly wrinkles (Ledy mould no. 2)


All other small differences you noted (stance, deeper lines etc.) are probably due to small batch to bacth variations during the production process using the same mould and/or ageing of the mould.


See the overview pic below, starring Dan's (aka swvintagefan) and James's (aka aussiejames) Biker Scout figures.



BTW: In the pics you posted yesterday I can only see the 5 wrinkles version for all three figures. Maybe a small mistake while copying your pics into the post?


At some point in the past i had 4 different sculpted LL bikers( now i just keep one of them), i must have a comparison pict somewhere in my PC...
BTW:A mexican collector friend of mine saw me once a pict with 6 different sculpted torsos for the LL bikers...
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Sat May 28, 2011 9:10 am

@javiswspain wrote:

Hi Marco ,
i do have The PBP Kenobi and is almost the same as LL figure.A while back i had both in hands and i couldnt see any major differences.
Hope this helps
Thanks

And do they both have
  • Extended index finger
  • Thicker sole
  • Extended left foot?

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