The Imperial Gunnery Forum


International Vintage Star Wars Collector Forum
 
HomeTIG.comFAQSearchMemberlistUsergroupsRegisterLog in
Share | .
 

 THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
Go to page : Previous  1 ... 13 ... 22, 23, 24 ... 31 ... 40  Next
AuthorMessage
Dr Dengar
TIG Benefactor
TIG Benefactor
avatar

Posts : 7048
Join date : 2010-05-07
Age : 45
Location : The Netherlands

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Mon Nov 07, 2011 12:49 am

Joe, please feel free to ask any Ledy questions here. Very Happy

This thread might also be usefull though it hasn't provided conclusive answers for alle Yoda acessories yet.

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t1312-need-some-help-with-ll-yoda
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://TantiveXI.com
snaggletooth
Grand Moff
Grand Moff
avatar

Posts : 997
Join date : 2010-12-06
Location : North Wales

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Mon Nov 07, 2011 10:16 am

@Dr Dengar wrote:
Joe, please feel free to ask any Ledy questions here. Very Happy

This thread might also be usefull though it hasn't provided conclusive answers for alle Yoda acessories yet.

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t1312-need-some-help-with-ll-yoda

Great Yoda thread Marco, I've not seen that one before. My Tie pilot doesn't look as dark in hand either, maybe a slight case of the discolouration Crying or Very sad
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Hutthunter
Imperial Lieutenant
Imperial Lieutenant
avatar

Posts : 160
Join date : 2010-12-22
Age : 44
Location : Hungary

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:22 pm

@wbobafett wrote:



Im pretty sure that:

1. the darkgrey boots and gloves are overpainted/touched up. I cann see the lightgrey underneath!

2. The emblems are just gone! Its the same phenomenon to the PBP Tie Pilots, or the trilogo Death Squad Commanders emblems! They can look mint...but the emblems are gone!

Just my two cents!

I am not sure about the emblems completely disappearing... without ANY little residue. BUT I do agree with point 1: the boots are definitely repainted/touched up! The gloves maybe not, but the boots surely. Yep, on the right boot's tip we can clearly see the original pale grey coming out instead of black (in case of wear). That's the case.
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://swvintagevariants.blogspot.com/
Dr Dengar
TIG Benefactor
TIG Benefactor
avatar

Posts : 7048
Join date : 2010-05-07
Age : 45
Location : The Netherlands

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Sun Nov 13, 2011 11:20 am


C-3PO Removable Limbs




COO guide for C-3PO Removable Limbs: No. 3 and 6 are shared by Lili Ledy and Kenner.


NOTE:
  • Apart from COO no.6 (as indicated in the COO guide), also COO no. 3 exist for the Ledy RL C-3PO!! In the pictures below a comparison is made between a Ledy and Kenner figure sharing COO no. 3.



C-3PO Removable Limbs: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (right)


C-3PO Removable Limbs: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (right)


C-3PO Removable Limbs: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (right)


C-3PO Removable Limbs: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (right)


C-3PO Removable Limbs: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (right)


C-3PO Removable Limbs: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (right)


C-3PO Removable Limbs: Kenner (left), Lili Ledy (right)



DIFFERENCES:
The Ledy RL C-3PO is a very tough figure to distinguish from its Kenner counterpart. First of all there is no obvious difference in the used gold paint. Moreover the gold paint causes reflections which makes it very hard to uncover potential differences in the used moulds. After spending half hour with a magnifier glass (even counting the number of stripes in C-3PO’s eyes Very Happy) I gave up and concluded that any differences in the mould are too subtle to use as distinctive markers.
Luckily still some differences can be observed (thx for your help Ozio!! Very Happy), but you have to look at spots which you can not see from the outside.

Compared to its Kenner counterpart, the Ledy RL C-3PO has:
- Joints with exposed creamy white/grey instead of tanned tips (due to different pigments in the plastics used to cast the figure). Note: All my Kenner figures have joints with tanned tips, and only the Ledy figure has creamy white tips. However we have to keep in mind this difference might not be consistent as different batches of coloured plastic could have been used during production of the limbs in the factories.
- A longer left leg, causing a leaning "Pisa Tower" stance of the figure. Probably this is an artefact which was caused after the limb was released from the steel mould and cooled down too fast. So it might be unique for this specific Ledy figure. However many Ledy RL C-3PO figures suffer from a left leg which doesn't fit as well as the right leg. So it might be a general phenomenon for Ledy figures. Some input needed here!!











ACCESSORIES
The Ledy RL C-3PO came with a bag having a different mould (V3) compared to the Kenner bags (V1, V2). The Ledy bag differs in:
- The type of plastic used (soft and glossy black)
- Size of the three squares in the grid pattern (smaller squares compared to Kenner bags)
- Position of the central square in the middle row compared to its neigboring rectangulars (positioned asymmetrically): this is the easiest to distinguish trait
- Different folding









LEDY VARIATIONS

  • Paint Variations:

Any?

  • COO Variations:


The Ledy RL C-3PO appears with different COOs.
- COO no. 3 (Hong Kong, see the pics above)
- COO no. 6 (no COO, carved, curved date stamp)






Last edited by Dr Dengar on Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:40 am; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://TantiveXI.com
Dr Dengar
TIG Benefactor
TIG Benefactor
avatar

Posts : 7048
Join date : 2010-05-07
Age : 45
Location : The Netherlands

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:57 pm


SUMMARY:
I was wondering why Lili Ledy used a set of unique steel moulds for some figures and used existing moulds for others. Below a possible explanation is given in terms of the amount of figures and weapons that had to be produced from each mould. Accordingly, in case the demand was high (MIM figures on Ledy and Kenner cards), new moulds were produced to guarantee a matching supply of figures w/o having to worry too much about off specs figures. This is because moulds are prone to weathering during their production life time. Older steel moulds will therefore produce figures with small imperfections after a while. So when you plan to make large numbers of figures, you better start with 'fresh' steel moulds. For the figures which were only produced for Lili Ledy cards (Mexican market), the demand was lower and the use of existing steel moulds was sufficient.

The same explanation might even be used to answer the question why the Ledy Squidhead came with two types of Bespin blasters.

I admit it is just a theory, it needs to be challenged to eventually come up with a better one.
So guys, your input will be appreciated very much here. Very Happy

A BIT MORE IN DETAIL:

Let’s start with this list of Ledy figures:
- Biker Scout
- Chief Chirpa
- Darth Vader
- Gammorean Guard
- Lando Skiff
- Logray
- Lumat
- Paploo
- Ree Yees
- Nien Nunb
- Squid Head
- Yoda

These figures came with unique COOs and sometimes other unique sculpt differences (for instance the short mask Biker Scout, Chief Chirpa’s amulet, Darth Vader head sculpt). So this is a strong indication that Lili Ledy used an unique set of steel moulds to produce the above mentioned set of figures. Question is why?
Maybe the clue lies in the fact that Lili Ledy needed to produce large number of these figures to serve both the Mexican and the US market where almost all of these figures (except Ben Kenobi) appeared on Kenner's Made in Mexico cards.

Made in Mexico (MIM) cards (pic made by Rog)

Steel moulds are prone to weathering during their production life time because of the high pressure and temperature during the injection molding process. Older steel moulds will therefore produce figures with small imperfections after a while. So when you plan to make large numbers of figures, you better start with 'fresh' steel moulds. So it seems logical that Ledy decided tu use new steel moulds instead of moulds from Asian production lines (which already had some degree of weathering).
BTW: Klaatu seems to be an exception. Though he was released on MIM cards, he has no unique COO, so apparently he was cast from an already used steel mould. Maybe we should have a closer look at this fellow, looking for small sculpt differences to be 100% sure he was not cast from a new steel mould.

Now let's turn to accessories for the above listed MIM figures. Nearly all are unique Ledy accessories, meaning they were cast from moulds that are different compared to their Kenner counterparts. Check it out:

- Biker Scout: unique gun mould, mostly with small “A”, “B”, "D"
- Chief Chirpa: unique staff having small “LL”
- Darth Vader: unique thicker saber
- Gammorean Guard: unique shorter axe
- Lando Skiff: unique thicker vibroblade, mostly with a small “A”, “B”
- Logray: unique hood mould (different number inside), unique staff and pouche both with small “LL”
- Lumat: figure and its accessories were only produced by Ledy, so all Ledy unique
- Paploo: same
- Ree Yees: unique gun mould with little “Y”, “S”, “W”
- Nien Nunb: unique gun mould with little “L”, “I”
- Squid Head: Unique belt mould with small "LL" on the inside. NO unique gun mould (come back to this later).
- Yoda: Unique snake mould, cane mould, belt mould.

Why was there a need to make new moulds for the weapons of the MIM figures? Maybe for the same reason as given for the figures themselves: A higher demand (Mexico and US) asked for better quality - read new - moulds. Though not every MIM figure was packed with Ledy accessories on a Kenner card, this explanation might still hold to some extent. In addition there might also be a higher demand because some of these weapons were packed with other figures on Ledy cards, meant for the Mexican market. For instance Jawa and TIE Fighter pilot came with Nien Nunb’s Ledy gun. The Emperor and Wicket came with Chief Chirpa's Ledy staff. Or Klaatu (2x) and Weeguay that came with Lando’s Ledy vibroblade.

The only exception seems to be Squid Head. Probably Lili Ledy didn't need a new mould here, as the company had already obtained a Kenner mould for the V1 Bespin gun (the same gun that came with Kenner's Squid). The mould was used to produce guns for many figures: Ledy's Squid Head (dark grey), Luke Bespin, Han Bespin, Lando (all blue) and Han Trenchcoat (black). Maybe the mould was therefore used too frequently, causing weathering and the typical rough surface texture.



V1: blue, rough surface (Lili Ledy)
[/color]

So this might be the reason that a second type of Bespin gun mould was used by Ledy after a while. Let us listen to a little conversation in the Ledy factory 30 years ago (translated in English):

- Manager: Why should we invest in a new steel mould for a Squid gun after obtaining this used steel mould from Asia?
- Quality Control: Maybe because the steel mould has already weathered a lot and now starts to produce guns with a rough surface? Oh why we have to produce so many of these Squids, and Hans, and Lukes, and Landos just from this one mould?!!!
- Manager: Oh YES you are right about the weathering, but I thought about this before and obtained another steel mould for this gun as well.
- Quality Control: But that is another mould, look this one produces a gun with a smaller and this one with a bigger trigger hole!!
- Manager: Just use the two different moulds, you idiot! Do you think anyone would care, now or in the future?!!
- Quality Control: I guess not, it would seem rather ridiculous.
- Manager: OK, OK, just carry on then. But hurry up, we probably have a lot of rework to do today. I heard that something is wrong with our Wampas. What a Face

Is that how we ended up wirth two different types of guns for the Ledy Squidhead? V1 and V5. scratch


V1: dark grey (Lili Ledy)


V5: dark grey (Lili Ledy)


V1 gun (top), V5 gun (bottom). Both are Lili Ledy MOCs

The figures which Lili Ledy produced exclusively for the Mexican home market (and maybe Spain?) were produced in smaller numbers. It is likely that used steel moulds from Asian production lines would be OK to produce these smaller numbers of figures because weathering might be a less important then. And indeed none of these figures have neither unique COOs nor sculpt differences. Unique traits for these Ledy figures are always based upon differences in paint applications (CCP with yellow boots, Wicket with grey eyes,….) and different accessories (thick Klaatu skirt, Bib Fortuna cape, Leia Endor poncho,…). Not only the figures but also the weapons seem to be produced from existing steel moulds, which makes sense off course. Because the same moulds were used, the Ledy weapons for these ‘home market’ figures can only be distinguished based upon subtle differences in the used plastic (colour, glossy or matt appearance). Think Ackbar’s staff, Boushh’s rifle, Bespin Leia’s gun, Chewie's bowcaster, Luke Jedi’s V1 gun, Madine’s staff, Nikto’s staff, Zuckuss’ gun,....


Probably these things have already been said somewhere else before, but maybe not, so I thought about sharing it with you guys.

I admit it is just a theory, it needs to be challenged to eventually come up with a better one.
So guys, your input will be appreciated very much here. Very Happy




Last edited by Dr Dengar on Sat Dec 03, 2011 4:52 am; edited 2 times in total
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://TantiveXI.com
pomse2001
Sith Apprentice
Sith Apprentice
avatar

Posts : 1046
Join date : 2011-03-09
Age : 38
Location : Denmark

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:17 pm

Hi guys I found this Kenobi in a lot.

Is this a Lili Ledy coo on this figure ? and is the figure a Lili Ledy ?


Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.pomse2001.dk
wbobafett
Force Addict
Force Addict
avatar

Posts : 2515
Join date : 2009-11-20

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:31 pm

Hey Marco,

A few points Id like to add:

1. The raised bar LL 3pos are myth! They do not exist!

2. The white material is correct!!

3. There is ONLY 2 coos on true LL 3po: #3 and #6!

4. BOTH have Kenner pendants! (#6 is one of the hardest "Kenner" figures to find!!)

5. Forget about the PISA...mine both have legs that are equally long!!


Also: Ben Kenobi:

1. There is two shlightly different no coos on LL Ben Kenobi!

2. BOTH have a total different Kenner coo pendant!

Again..only the MIM coos are unique to LL!! Thats a rule which is for 100%.

Just saw that this is still wrong on the front page!

Back to top Go down
View user profile
pomse2001
Sith Apprentice
Sith Apprentice
avatar

Posts : 1046
Join date : 2011-03-09
Age : 38
Location : Denmark

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:37 pm

@wbobafett wrote:


Also: Ben Kenobi:

1. There is two shlightly different no coos on LL Ben Kenobi!

2. BOTH have a total different Kenner coo pendant!

Again..only the MIM coos are unique to LL!! Thats a rule which is for 100%.

Just saw that this is still wrong on the front page!


Hi mate, for me it looks like the coo no. 7 in the coo guide.

Is that coo not a lili ledy ?

Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.pomse2001.dk
Dr Dengar
TIG Benefactor
TIG Benefactor
avatar

Posts : 7048
Join date : 2010-05-07
Age : 45
Location : The Netherlands

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:42 pm

@wbobafett wrote:
Hey Marco,

A few points Id like to add:

1. The raised bar LL 3pos are myth! They do not exist!

2. The white material is correct!!

3. There is ONLY 2 coos on true LL 3po: #3 and #6!

4. BOTH have Kenner pendants! (#6 is one of the hardest "Kenner" figures to find!!)

5. Forget about the PISA...mine both have legs that are equally long!!

YES!! Finally some decent feedback on the RL 3PO, to help improving his entry. Thanks Wolff!! Very Happy

To add: I have only seen #3 and #5 for the RL C3PO as well. (not #6 BTW, I made the same mistake, but there is no COO #6 in your guide Very Happy)

However in the thread below, a raised bar LL C-3PO (COO #1) is discussed. So this figure might not be a Ledy in that case?

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t977p15-ledy-rem-limbs-c-3po?highlight=ledy

Anyone has a raised bar LL C-3PO? Pls check the end of the joints (are they grey/white?) and post your results here.


OK so the PISA stance is not a common thing, just a bit deformed left leg which slipped through quality control and ended up on my C-3PO? Pity as it would have been a nice LL trait to make an easy distinction between a Kenner figure.

I will update the entry with the new info soon!
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://TantiveXI.com
Dr Dengar
TIG Benefactor
TIG Benefactor
avatar

Posts : 7048
Join date : 2010-05-07
Age : 45
Location : The Netherlands

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 2:47 pm

@wbobafett wrote:



Also: Ben Kenobi:

1. There is two shlightly different no coos on LL Ben Kenobi!

2. BOTH have a total different Kenner coo pendant!

Again..only the MIM coos are unique to LL!! Thats a rule which is for 100%.

Just saw that this is still wrong on the front page!


Hmm you are right why is Ben still among the MIM figures on the front page?? He doesn't have an unique COO, he was never carded on a MIM card.
He must have been slipped through this thread’s quality control. Very Happy
EDIT: Changed that now, mate!!


BTW: How about the LL Darth Vader. Does his COO have a Kenner counterpart? I am still not sure. scratch


Last edited by Dr Dengar on Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:34 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://TantiveXI.com
Dr Dengar
TIG Benefactor
TIG Benefactor
avatar

Posts : 7048
Join date : 2010-05-07
Age : 45
Location : The Netherlands

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:08 pm

@pomse2001 wrote:


Hi mate, for me it looks like the coo no. 7 in the coo guide.

Is that coo not a lili ledy ?


Lars: It is, but it is not unique for Ledy, as there are also Kenner figures sharing the same COO, as indicated by Wolff. I added this info to Ben's entry now BTW.

I would focus on the paint applications on the head now. Does the head look like a Ledy Ben?

Wolff: If the COO is not unique for Ben, I can imagine the other mould differences (extended finger and foot) are probably not unique Ledy traits as well?

Back to top Go down
View user profile http://TantiveXI.com
wbobafett
Force Addict
Force Addict
avatar

Posts : 2515
Join date : 2009-11-20

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:23 pm

@Dr Dengar wrote:

To add: I have only seen #3 and #5 for the RL C3PO as well. (not #6 BTW, I made the same mistake, but there is no COO #6 in your guide Very Happy)

What did I wrote .... :nailbiting: ...yeah..its for sure #5 after THIS coo picture.....sorry! Wink

The Kenner Ben has extended finger and the boot you described Wink. Of course...its the same steel mold.....although I did double check it!

even worse...noticed one of my LL Bens has the finger cut off! By factory?? Seems like...damn!!

I had a raised bar LL 3po too and fell for it! But I dont believe in this one anymore! It doesnt exists IMO! Raised bar is invented by sellers to make some quick cash!!

If you have doubts: ever saw a raised bar with original net??? Me not..only 3 and 5!
Back to top Go down
View user profile
pomse2001
Sith Apprentice
Sith Apprentice
avatar

Posts : 1046
Join date : 2011-03-09
Age : 38
Location : Denmark

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:26 pm

Hi Marco, I think my new ben looks like the Lili Ledy.

What do you think ?

Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.pomse2001.dk
wbobafett
Force Addict
Force Addict
avatar

Posts : 2515
Join date : 2009-11-20

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:30 pm

Kenner...100% Rolling Eyes
Back to top Go down
View user profile
pomse2001
Sith Apprentice
Sith Apprentice
avatar

Posts : 1046
Join date : 2011-03-09
Age : 38
Location : Denmark

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:35 pm

@wbobafett wrote:
Kenner...100% Rolling Eyes

But it looks like he has the extended finger and thicker soles ?
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.pomse2001.dk
wbobafett
Force Addict
Force Addict
avatar

Posts : 2515
Join date : 2009-11-20

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:40 pm

@pomse2001 wrote:
@wbobafett wrote:
Kenner...100% Rolling Eyes

But it looks like he has the extended finger and thicker soles ?

Do you ever READ!!!!
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Dr Dengar
TIG Benefactor
TIG Benefactor
avatar

Posts : 7048
Join date : 2010-05-07
Age : 45
Location : The Netherlands

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:43 pm

@pomse2001 wrote:
@wbobafett wrote:
Kenner...100% Rolling Eyes

But it looks like he has the extended finger and thicker soles ?

The COO is linked to a specific steel mould. As the COO is not unique to Ledy, the other mould characteristics are not as well.

Still an interesting figure, exactly the one which I would like to have to make comparison pics with his Ledy brother.
Is this a difficult Kenner variant to get, Wolff? How about the other Kenner pendant?
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://TantiveXI.com
pomse2001
Sith Apprentice
Sith Apprentice
avatar

Posts : 1046
Join date : 2011-03-09
Age : 38
Location : Denmark

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:48 pm

@wbobafett wrote:
@pomse2001 wrote:
@wbobafett wrote:
Kenner...100% Rolling Eyes

But it looks like he has the extended finger and thicker soles ?

Do you ever READ!!!!

Yes I just do not always understand what you write!!!!!!
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.pomse2001.dk
pomse2001
Sith Apprentice
Sith Apprentice
avatar

Posts : 1046
Join date : 2011-03-09
Age : 38
Location : Denmark

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:49 pm

@Dr Dengar wrote:
@pomse2001 wrote:
@wbobafett wrote:
Kenner...100% Rolling Eyes

But it looks like he has the extended finger and thicker soles ?

The COO is linked to a specific steel mould. As the COO is not unique to Ledy, the other mould characteristics are not as well.

Still an interesting figure, exactly the one which I would like to have to make comparison pics with his Ledy brother.
Is this a difficult Kenner variant to get, Wolff? How about the other Kenner pendant?

Hi Marco, maybe you can explain the difference so I can understand it ?
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.pomse2001.dk
wbobafett
Force Addict
Force Addict
avatar

Posts : 2515
Join date : 2009-11-20

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:51 pm

@wbobafett wrote:


The Kenner Ben has extended finger and the boot you described Wink. Of course...its the same steel mold.....although I did double check it!

What do you not understand in this post??
Back to top Go down
View user profile
Starwizz
TIG Benefactor
TIG Benefactor
avatar

Posts : 614
Join date : 2011-06-15

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:53 pm

Trilogo/pbp

i am not sure but it can be ???
Back to top Go down
View user profile
pomse2001
Sith Apprentice
Sith Apprentice
avatar

Posts : 1046
Join date : 2011-03-09
Age : 38
Location : Denmark

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:55 pm

@wbobafett wrote:
@wbobafett wrote:


The Kenner Ben has extended finger and the boot you described Wink. Of course...its the same steel mold.....although I did double check it!

What do you not understand in this post??

The difference between the lili ledy and the kenner ? on the pictures there is shown how the lili ledy should look. Is the pictures wrong ?
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.pomse2001.dk
Dr Dengar
TIG Benefactor
TIG Benefactor
avatar

Posts : 7048
Join date : 2010-05-07
Age : 45
Location : The Netherlands

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:56 pm

Kenner used a steel mould having COO no. 7. This mould also had the extended finger, foot, thicker soles.

The same mould was used by Lili Ledy to produce their Ben figures at some stage.

So there are no differences in the sculpt of the Kenner and Ledy figures.
There are only diffeences in the used plastic, paint, (and the cape and saber).



Last edited by Dr Dengar on Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:57 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://TantiveXI.com
wbobafett
Force Addict
Force Addict
avatar

Posts : 2515
Join date : 2009-11-20

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:57 pm

@Dr Dengar wrote:

Still an interesting figure, exactly the one which I would like to have to make comparison pics with his Ledy brother.
Is this a difficult Kenner variant to get, Wolff? How about the other Kenner pendant?

Dont know if its difficult to get. I never searched for it!

The other Kenner pendant is just a slight different coo! As I already told in my coo thread I assume there is always a "pair" of the same, but slightly different coos...some have three! So the chances of getting one are 50:50 or in other cases 33,3:33,3:33,3! Wink

For you as Ledy maniac: There is always a minimu of two different coos....shlightly different....not talking about the obvious different ones!

Ill gave up hunting these for now!

On the Vader: which coo do you mean?? The no coo has no Kenner pendant...NO!
Back to top Go down
View user profile
pomse2001
Sith Apprentice
Sith Apprentice
avatar

Posts : 1046
Join date : 2011-03-09
Age : 38
Location : Denmark

PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Dec 01, 2011 3:58 pm

@starwizz wrote:
Trilogo/pbp

i am not sure but it can be ???

Maybe tri-logo, there was sold many tri-logo cards in Denmark.
Back to top Go down
View user profile http://www.pomse2001.dk
 

THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1

View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 23 of 40Go to page : Previous  1 ... 13 ... 22, 23, 24 ... 31 ... 40  Next

 Similar topics

-
» General Glee Discussion Thread--Part 6
» General Glee Discussion Thread--Part 4
» Kurt Hummel Spoiler Thread - part 24
» PokéShipping (Ash x Misty) General Discussion Thread
» Shaddoll Discussion Thread

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
The Imperial Gunnery Forum :: Vintage Star Wars Chat
-