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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:11 pm

@OZIO wrote:
Hi, yes it is unique for LL, it was also used on LL Han Endor's trenchcoat and in some LL Squid Head collars:

The staff must have the small circle, could you post some images?



Hey Ozio,

Wow that's cool. Thanks for the images.

Here is the Cape. I'm sure it won't be Lili Ledy (I don't know how I would have acquired it.) but it does look about right (to me at least.)





The staff one the right is the one I briefly thought might be Ledy because It's a darker grey than the standard (like the left one), but browner than the other dark greys (like the middle one) which based on what I've read is the colour the LL staff should be. I know it isn't LL though as it doesn't have the circular indent. Thought I'd take a pic anyway so you can see what I mean about the colour.


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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:27 pm

well I don't know how that cape got to you but that's a LL cape 100%, maybe you have a LL magnet lol! the staff on the middle looks LL to me but without the small circle is hard to tell.
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Tue Feb 14, 2012 3:48 pm

@OZIO wrote:
well I don't know how that cape got to you but that's a LL cape 100%, maybe you have a LL magnet lol! the staff on the middle looks LL to me but without the small circle is hard to tell.

Laughing

How werid is that!? I can't explaing how that got in my posession.

With the staff, just to be clear, the LL staff always has the circular indent? (There are no LL variants without?)

Is the cape worth anything? I know the Burgundy LL cape is much rarer. As I don't have the figure or other accessories, I may just sell the cape.

I did some research on Bib chest plates too. If I understand correctly, it is the one with the three circular indents, but there is a Kenner version that is the same, with the same indents and the same number on the inside, the only difference is that the LL version is a darker colour. Is that correct?

Thanks for your help. I really apreciate it. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:01 pm



Yes, the staff must have the circular indent and the chest plate must be the dark one. Cape price: 20-30?
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Tue Feb 14, 2012 4:11 pm



Cool, in that case, I definitely don't have the other accessories. (I have the right mould for the chest plate but not the right colour.) I might put the cape in the Classified section. Is that 20-30 dollars or pounds? (or euros lol?)

Thanks again mate. (I am slightly worried that I had the correct figure at some point and sold him, traded him or lost him before I knew what LL was. Ah well, c'est la vie. Laughing )

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PostSubject: Lili Ledy Variations    Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:56 am


SPECIAL REPORT: UNKNOWN AND RARE LILI LEDY FIGURES



TABLE OF CONTENTS



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INTRODUCTION

Hi Guys, there are some Lili Ledy variations I want to share with you. Though these are not as popular as for instance the Burgundy Bib Fortuna or Burgundy Squid Head, they are very unique (and rare) as well, and might therefore gain more popularity amongst Lili Ledy collectors in the future. Wolff and Marco have already mentioned some of them, The main goal of this entry is to provide a good overview of these uncommon Lili Ledy figures in terms of information and pictures.
It is very well possible that some of these variations were released on the early “Imperio Contraataca” (ESB) cards. but because there is no definite proof,
let's call them only LL variations for the moment. Very Happy

Lili Ledy ESB 10-back. Back. (Picture from SWCA)


I'll be adding different figure entries one by one, I hope you like them. If you have more info on these variations please share.
A big thanks to Wolff for his help on this research. Very Happy
Ok, here we go:

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LEIA BESPIN
LEIA BESPIN WITH LIGHT BROWN HAIR AND HONG KONG COO

   

Paint tone for the hair is unique for this variation.
     

HK COO


LL HK Leia Bespin and 'regular' LL Leia Bespin.
     

'Regular' LL cape on the left. The cape for this variation has longer oval arm holes, different shape and the grid texture on one side.
     

As the cape for this variation is totally different from the regular LL cape there's a possibility that the gun it's also different, still the few times I have found this figure complete it had a LL blue Leia gun.
     

And don't forget to check out the entry for the regular Lili Ledy Leia Bespin: Leia Bespin

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YODA
YODA WITH HONG KONG COO



Orange eyes, same mold as the 'regular' LL Yoda.
 

The figure has a HK COO (COO #3) which belongs to same COO family as the 'no COO' (COO #6) 'regular' LL Yoda.
The Hong Kong Ledy Yoda has melt marks on the back similar as those observed on some PBP figures.

        

COOs are different. From left to right: 1. Kenner (Hong Kong COO #2), 2. Lili Ledy (Hong Kong COO #3). 3.  Kenner (Hong Kong COO #2).


Accessories found on this variation are 'regular' LL ones but the tone for the plastic may vary on the cane, on the belt and on the snake.


'EL Retorno' carded example, found by MadHunter from México, One of the early figures made after the LL 'Imperio Contrataca' line. The warranty sheet was not printed on the card, it was inside the bubble.
     

And don't forget to check out the entry for the regular Lili Ledy Yoda: Yoda

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SQUID HEAD
GREEN CAPE SQUID HEAD

Green cape with LL material on the collar


This variation can be found with 2 different materias on the collar, one made with the exact same material of the LL Bib Fortuna's cape and the more common one with Kenner material,
the one with LL material is the hardest to find, even more than the burgundy variation.  
Green cape with LL material on the collar


Green cape with Kenner material on the collar


There are 5 variations for the LL Squid Head, from left to right; Burgundy Squid, Green LL cape with LL collar, Green LL cape with Kenner collar, LL Brown cape with Kenner collar and MIM.
     

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DARTH VADER
DARTH VADER WITH HONG KONG COO AND NO COO


LL Darth Vader with HK COO.


LL Darth Vader with No COO or Erased COO


Both variations have the same paint applications and mold
 

There are two type of capes for these variations: thin (HK COO) and thick (No COO), thin on the left:


Both capes have a dull and a bright side and they have the same size and shape.


Both variations can be found with regular LL red sabers:


There's a unique LL saber found on some LL Darth Vaders:

This saber is very thin, and has a unique shape and tip. This saber has been found on LL HK Darth Vaders, thin cape with 'Retorno' cards. So probably it is an early version for the 'Imperio' line and made it into some of the 'Retorno' cards.

Regular LL saber on bottom:


And don't forget to check out the entry for the regular Lili Ledy Darth Vader: Darth Vader

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LUKE BESPIN
LUKE BESPIN WITH BLOND HAI


This variation has blond hair and dark brown boots.


LL HK Luke, 'Regular' LL Luke Bespin and Overstock head.


Date stamp and COO. This variation has melt marks on the back similar as those observed on some PBP figures.


The weapons for this variation are unique LL accessories; blue rebel pistol with a small angle below the barrel and matt yellow saber with big circles (on top).


And don't forget to check out the entry for the regular Lili Ledy Luke Bespin:

[*] Luke Bespin



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R2D2
1978 R2D2

The LL 1978 R2D2 has a dull silver & dark blue dome just as the 12" R2D2 made by LL, these characteristics indicates an earlier LL R2D2 probably part of the 'Imperio Contrataca' line.


Not all the LL R2D2 with the Dark Blue Paint on the dome (on the left) have the 1978 date stamp and that's why this is one of the hardest LL variations out there.


LL Carded 'El Retorno' R2D2 with the dark blue dome. Again, one of the first figures made after the LL 'Imperio Contrataca' line. The warranty sheet was not printed on the card, it was inside the bubble.


Date stamp with the 1978 and no COO.


And don't forget to check out the entry for the regular Lili Ledy R2D2: R2D2

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Teebo
Brown Eyes Teebo

The only difference between the 'regular' LL Teebo and this variation is the color applied on the face,
regular LL Teebo and Brown Eyes Teebo share the same date stamps, plastic tone, body paint and accessories.



Three examples of this variation:


It has regular LL accessories.


Carded Example.
 

And don't forget to check out the entry for the regular Lili Ledy Teebo: Teebo

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Han Bespin
Han Bespin with HK COO



The LL HK Han Bespin (on the right) it's made from a different mold than the regular LL Han Bespin and it has a lighter brown tone in the legs.


Date stamp and Coo for this variation:


LL HK in the middle, not LL on both sides:


LL HK in the middle, not LL on both sides:
 

All, regular and HK LL Han Bespin have the same type of head.


There's a version of the LL HK Han Bespin with the back buckle painted white:


And don't forget to check out the entry for the regular Lili Ledy Han Bespin: Han Bespin

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C3PO
C3PO with 3-line COO

This variation unique difference is the 3-line COO and has all the LL characteristics, screw on back, paint, mold, and melt marks on the back.
 

Date stamp and COO for this variation:


Regular LL 2-line COO and 3-line COO.
 

And don't forget to check out the entry for the regular Lili Ledy C3PO: C3PO






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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Wed Feb 15, 2012 8:16 am

While sorting through my loose Obi-Wans for the FOTW thread I came across this one.
I've checked the Obi-Wan guide on here & my figure appears to be pretty similar.
Could one of the Ledy experts confirm whether this is a Ledy/PBP figure or the Kenner version I have heard about. It has Kenner accessories (may not be original to the figure).
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Wed Feb 15, 2012 11:09 am

+1 i found this one in my collection too



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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:05 pm

Hi guys, that Obiwan shares the same mold that the LL Obiwan but it's not a LL figure, take a look:
LL on the left.
One of the basic differences between these two figures is the plastic tone, LL has a pale orange tone, not LL has a deep bright orange tone.

LL on the left

Not LL on the middle:
LL Obi wan has brown or dark brown eyes, grey hair and a beige tone on the face, not LL Obi has black eyes, white hair and a pink/pale tone on the face.

Both figures have an extended index finger (LL on top)

Same date stamp for both figures
Not LL date stamp. Look at the bright orange plastic tone.

LL date stamp. Look at the pale orange plastic tone.


More pics here:
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.3154288452049.151877.1110304487&type=3&l=334f1b9b64

and don't forget to check this:
http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t2135p240-lili-ledy-discussion-thread-links-to-all-figures-can-be-found-on-first-page-of-this-thread#Ben%20Kenobi

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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:11 pm

OZIO:Thanks for enlighten us LL noobs Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:13 pm

no problem Wink
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:27 pm

Thank you very much OZIO for taking the time to clear that up & post the additional pictures to help aid identification.
At least having a confirmed Kenner version will make it easier for me to correctly identify a Ledy/PBP figure if I get one in hand. Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:27 pm

I was already writing an answer, but you scooped me, Ozio!! lol!

Nothing more to add. Very Happy

Yeah-sus & CP: Glad that you guys found your answer here, don't forget you can post any Ledy question in this thread.
There are no stupid questions, just stupid answers. Very Happy

BTW: I'm still looking for a Kenner Ben with COO#7 to make comparison pics with his Ledy brother. So pls let me know when you decide to sell him one day.

Ozio: Great contribution about the Hong Kong Leia. cheers
Two Han Bespin Hong Kong variants? Hmm, I still miss one variant. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:33 pm

@Dr Dengar wrote:
I was already writing an answer, but you scooped me, Ozio!! lol!

Nothing more to add. Very Happy

Yeah-sus & CP: Glad that you guys found your answer here, don't forget you can post any Ledy question in this thread.
There are no stupid questions, just stupid answers. Very Happy

BTW: I'm still looking for a Kenner Ben with COO#7 to make comparison pics with his Ledy brother. So pls let me know when you decide to sell him one day.

Ozio: Great contribution about the Hong Kong Leia. cheers
Two Han Bespin Hong Kong variants? Hmm, I still miss one variant. Very Happy

Thanks Marco, if I ever decide to part with it, or come across another one, you'll definately be the first to know! Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:37 pm

@Dr Dengar wrote:


Ozio: Great contribution about the Hong Kong Leia. cheers
Two Han Bespin Hong Kong variants? Hmm, I still miss one variant. Very Happy


Thanks Marco.
You all ready have it... Wink The HK Han Bespin with the back buckle painted white cheers cheers
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:41 pm

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If I ever decide to part with it, or come across another one, you'll definately be the first to know! Very Happy

One extra like for CP! Very Happy

Oh and one for Ozio, for his Leia contribution.

Hell, you know what, everybody who posted on this page, gets one, I like Ledy discussions!! Very Happy

EDIT: I did not know I would be the first to post on this page, I meant the previous page then. lol!

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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:55 pm

@Dr Dengar wrote:
@cantina_patron wrote:

If I ever decide to part with it, or come across another one, you'll definately be the first to know! Very Happy

One extra like for CP! Very Happy

Oh and one for Ozio, for his Leia contribution.

Hell, you know what, everybody who posted on this page, gets one, I like Ledy discussions!! Very Happy

EDIT: I did not know I would be the first to post on this page, I meant the previous page then. lol!


Right back at you Marco lol!
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Wed Feb 15, 2012 2:56 pm

hmmmmmm....if I only would remember who spotted and found the first LL ESB Leia years ago scratch scratch scratch

lol! lol!
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:03 pm

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hmmmmmm....if I only would remember who spotted and found the first LL ESB Leia years ago scratch scratch scratch

lol! lol!

And one like for Wolff for discovering the LL Hong Kong (I suppose). Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Wed Feb 15, 2012 3:06 pm

@wbobafett wrote:
hmmmmmm....if I only would remember who spotted and found the first LL ESB Leia years ago scratch scratch scratch

lol! lol!

lol! lol! lol! you did!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:37 pm

Hi guys I have been looking at some of my Yoda figures and found this one in my collection. I don't know where I have the figure from. But I have had it in years.

Is this a Lili Ledy Yoda ?




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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:44 pm


YES! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:01 pm

Hi Marco and thanks bow

I also found those parts on this figure and a hong kong figure are the parts Ledy ?






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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:18 pm


Read the first page of this thread and you will know the answer. Very Happy

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t1312-need-some-help-with-ll-yoda

Then read my answer below (by selecting the text underneath with your cursor).

Belts: Both Ledy
Canes: Only the left one



Is it the same answer?
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PostSubject: Re: THE LILI LEDY GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD PART 1   Thu Feb 16, 2012 2:38 pm

@Dr Dengar wrote:

Read the first page of this thread and you will know the answer. Very Happy

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t1312-need-some-help-with-ll-yoda

Then read my answer below (by selecting the text underneath with your cursor).

Belts: Both Ledy
Canes: Only the left one



Is it the same answer?

Thanks for the link, but affraid I am confused, I miss Yoda in the Lili Ledy thread. I think you make better pictures and explain it better Very Happy

I think I miss the snake, I have no snake with a circle :crying:

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