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PostSubject: Luke Jedi Accessories Questions   Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:18 am

I've been having a look around and every where I look seems to have different accessories on the same figures.

Was the snap cape only released with the moulded TAIWAN? I have 3 cape variants, can any one tell me what go with what figures?
one snap cape(brown), one the same color and the last is a lighter brown?

Where all the color blasters released with all the figures? I have a light brown/green and a Dark grey?

Was the Blue saber only released with the HONG KONG figure

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PostSubject: Re: Luke Jedi Accessories Questions   Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:55 am

Hi Scott, try CraigT's Luke Jedi Character Focus, may have the answers in there for you

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t504p15-craigy-s-luke-jedi-last-updated-02-07-2010

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PostSubject: Re: Luke Jedi Accessories Questions   Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:05 pm

Artoo_Detour wrote:
Hi Scott, try CraigT's Luke Jedi Character Focus, may have the answers in there for you

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t504p15-craigy-s-luke-jedi-last-updated-02-07-2010

I've had a look on there thanks mate, but cant make out the accessories compared to the ones I have.
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PostSubject: Re: Luke Jedi Accessories Questions   Sun Feb 06, 2011 12:05 pm

I was thinking the same Paul, Craig provided a lot of information on Luke Jedi accessories on this forum.

Hope this helps Scott.

@Craig T wrote:
Hi guys here's an update for the Luke Jedi capes. I have scored a complete MIHK Luke with the correct cape and confirmed it with MOC examples. It not only darker but also fluffier. I mistakenly thought a big ribbed cape was the MIHK cape as it was slightly darker. This is not true the big ribbed caped seem to belong to the HK COO lukes only.

Anyways here's a reference for all ye collectors:


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PostSubject: Re: Luke Jedi Accessories Questions   Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:37 pm

I'm a little rusty on my loose accessories where I've been focusing more on MOC, but from my limited experience with the loose variations your Tan blaster should go with the Hong Kong COOs. The snap cape on the other hand can come from either COO. It was originally thought to have been only early Taiwan figures like the moulded Luke, but a few years ago I picked up a MOC 65a blue saber Hong Kong figure in which you can clearly see the snap in the bubble. Hopefully Craig can chime in at some point here too as he has quite a few loose variations and has been tracking that info.
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PostSubject: Re: Luke Jedi Accessories Questions   Sun Feb 06, 2011 3:30 pm

Hi Scott,

I could only see one Luke cape on your limelight.

That one is from a figure that has "Made in Taiwan" stamped on his leg... so will go with the figure on show. I can't see the weapons clearly in your photo but if you can send me I hi-res photos I will double check them for you.

Note: you can get BOTH Tan and Grey palace blasters for a "Made in Taiwan" Luke Jedi. So the Tan Blaster is not necessarilywrong for this figure!

Also the Snap Cape was produced by all 3 Major Factories:

COO: "Hong Kong"
COO: "Made in Hong Kong"
COO: "Made in Tiawan"





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PostSubject: Re: Luke Jedi Accessories Questions   Sun Feb 06, 2011 4:40 pm

Dr Dengar And shawn_k

Great info Guys and a great help, thanks

@Craig T wrote:
Hi Scott,

I could only see one Luke cape on your limelight.

That one is from a figure that has "Made in Taiwan" stamped on his leg... so will go with the figure on show. I can't see the weapons clearly in your photo but if you can send me I hi-res photos I will double check them for you.

Note: you can get BOTH Tan and Grey palace blasters for a "Made in Taiwan" Luke Jedi. So the Tan Blaster is not necessarilywrong for this figure!

Also the Snap Cape was produced by all 3 Major Factories:

COO: "Hong Kong"
COO: "Made in Hong Kong"
COO: "Made in Tiawan"




Thanks for the offer of checking out the pic for me Craig but my cameras shite mate.

I only have the one cape in my limelite at the moment and thats the tan blaster with it. Did the HONG KONG also come with the grey blasters or am I better off swapping them around?

You say the Snap Cape was produced by all 3 Major Factories, are the colors the same as in Dr Dengars post or was it only the one color?

Sorry for all the questions mate, Scott


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PostSubject: Re: Luke Jedi Accessories Questions   Mon Feb 07, 2011 1:53 pm

@snaggletooth wrote:
Hi Craig,

you said in my post that the Snap Cape was produced by all 3 Major Factories, are the colors the same as in Dr Dengars post or was it only produced in the one color?

Thanks Scott


Hi Scott,

Thanks for your PM as I did not check the thread and see that you asked me a question or two. I replied here so anyone who is interested in the future can see what my reply was.

Short Answer: I believe there should be 3 different Capes.

Very Long Answer:

I don't have all three snap capes loose at this stage of time to be able to give you another comparison picture with snap capes sorry. Here's the photo I took for Marco (Dr Dengar) again. Here, I used only stitched capes because I didn’t have snap capes for each factory.



However, if you do look at my photo you can see the colours and texture are different for each cape. Since each factory made their own accessories, I expect all three snap capes to be different and the material to follow the same texture and colours as in my photo above.

All of this is well and good, but since posting that original bit of research, I have found an anomaly in the stitched capes on my MOC. I am working on new research at the moment that may contradict the above research I did for Marco, as I have found two Palitoy Luke Jedi MOCs with completely different capes despite coming from the same factory (See the recent vintage purchase thread):



The reasons for this could be as simple as the factory reordering a new batch of cape material and accidently ordering the wrong material order number or the supplier simply “improved” the quality of it material changing the texture as a result. I don’t know yet. At the moment I still expect the above original research to be true for the snap capes as they had a very short run life and so there should only be 3 different capes and only one type for each factory. I just want to make this clear in case I find more evidence that contradicts my original findings.

At the moment though:

I can show you the snap cape for a “Made in Taiwan” Luke Jedi figure:




This is 100% guaranteed as the cape is still factory sealed inside the bubble. As the MOC is in my possession, I can confirm the MOC hasn’t been tampered with (i.e. nobody has inserted a Snap Cape inside the card and resealed it). I am not sure if the photo is clear enough but the cape has the thinner banding.

This is very much similar to the stiched version above with the green sleeve. Notice in earlier MOC versions of this figure, the people in the factory would actually hold in Luke and his cape inside the bubble by the green sleeve, which was taped to the inside of the bubble before mounting to the card. If you look at the above photo you can see the then green sleeve behind luke. This is pretty solid evidence that the same textile dept. made the capes.

Below this is Shawn K’s “Hong Kong” Luke Jedi with that factory’s Snap Cape:



I haven't looked at this photo in a while and didn't realease how fluffy the cape is... hmm this looks like the fluffy cape texture in the Palitoy photo above. I am starting to wonder now if the "HN" factory used at least two different materials.


And finally Tommie (Yzerman) who is another Luke Jedi Collector has the “Made in Hong Kong” Luke Jedi:




Both Shawn and Tommie are highly respected and stellar MOC collectors with a lot of experience in collecting MOCs. So I would be more than happy to say that these are 100% legit specimens too.



Back to you other question on the Palace blaster. I have not seen a grey palace blaster for the Hong Kong Jedi, but this doesn’t mean they don’t exist. Note there seem to be two "tan" colours for "Hong Kong"

I didn’t understand what you meant by swapping the blaster? To be accurate I would check your blaster against the reference guide photo here on TIG..

In the link above (click reference guide) is a photo (created by TIG’s Wolff) of all the blasters for Luke Jedi from each factory:

Version___Factory_______________Colour1______Colour2

V1_______“Hong Kong”___________Tan 1_______Tan 2
V2_______“Made in Taiwan”_______Tan 3_______Grey 1
V3_______“Made in Hong Kong”____Tan 4_______Green/Tan 1 (LL ONLY)


To be consistent you should match the gun mould with the correct Luke Jedi figure. At this stage I wouldn't worry about the matching the sub colour. It is the mould that is really important if you want to be truely consistent. Each factory made their own guns so as long as you match the mould you will be fine.

Well I have to take my hat off to you for starting out on this variant collection so hopefully the information here will stand you in good sted!

Prynhawn da!


You can expect more updates on this if and when I find more. But for now, I hope this helps! Sorry for the long answer just wanted to wrap this up properly.





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PostSubject: Re: Luke Jedi Accessories Questions   Mon Feb 07, 2011 3:02 pm



First class answer Craigy!

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PostSubject: Re: Luke Jedi Accessories Questions   Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:37 pm


First of all Craig, thanks for the great reply it really has been a great help, also for posting it on this thread so others can benefit from it.

You dont have to explain your self mate and your entitled to find evidence that contradicts your original findings, as we wouldn't even have this information if it wasn't for original research, Thanks for sharing.

That's a great tip on matching the gun to the mold and not the color, didnt think of that Rolling Eyes also a good tip for other characters not just Luke Jedi.

What I meant by swapping the blaster was I have a tan blaster in my limelite with the TAIWAN fig and a grey one here. I was talking about giving the TAIWAN the grey one and my HONG KONG the tan, as you've all ready confirmed that the HONG KONG has a tan blaster, I will check out the mold now though.

The reason I asked my original question about the color of the snap cape and if there was 3 is because I wanted to match it with my HONG KONG fig. But from the original picture of the capes in Dr Dengars post, my snap cape looks more like the MADE IN HONG KONG

Thanks again for a great post mate, Scott
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