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PostSubject: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Mon Aug 08, 2011 6:44 am

Hi all I just need a little help identifying a few aspects of this figure...

I purchased a Bib Fortuna baggie on bay and didn't think much of it. When I received the item the baggie didn't look original and has no manufacturer markings on it at all.

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can anyone confirm this is the case……

Well I quickly put the figure in the collection very disappointed about the bag. A few days later I was sorting the new purchases when I actually looked at the figure and saw that the staff was a kind of dark brown with a hollow inner circle. I checked the breast plate and it looks darker; the cloak appears to have a rough white lining (Hard to see due to the bag); there is a flaw on the bottom of his feet, I can't see his wrist bands from outside the bag.

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I'm no ledy expert as I only have only just purchased my first two ledy figures a week ago (which I am dying to receive). Is this guy a ledy the research I have done points to yes?

Many Thanks!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:38 pm

If you compare the paint on the end of his fingertips to another bib and there darker then I'd say yes to Ledy
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:44 pm

I'm not sure on the baggie but going of your description of the figure
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Sat Aug 13, 2011 6:51 pm

it is 100% ledy mate Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:31 am

@jason11272stacey wrote:
it is 100% ledy mate Wink

How can you tell mate, is that a mexican baggie?
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:38 am

Has the bag got any evidence of any text on it? COO text can rub off over time although I am not sure I can remember seeing a Made in Mexico bagged
Bib.

Will see if I can find a picture of one.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:51 am

These were the bags I found-

Large Kenner logo - Made in HK


Made in Macau -


Made in Taiwan -


And as far as I know this is the only Made in Mexico style bag thats out there-



If the Ledy experts confirm the figure inside the baggie is 100% Ledy without a shadow of a doubt and its factory sealed then that is pretty cool if a little odd!
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:59 am

how can i tell the main thing is the white lining to the inside of the cape only ledy have this

pluss i have one as well a baggie bib with the same white lining same colour pink eyes and mouth
same darker staff with the mold mark same darker chest plate same tint of green in the blue plastic
all ledy trates Wink

joe no the baggie has no text or any sign of there any text been on it mate
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:02 am

Is this like yours?

eBay

UK origin baggies can often be plain or with a basic Made in Hong Kong text that can rub/wear off, the problem there is that if its a UK origin baggie then the chances of it being a Ledy figure are zero.

Are there no Euro/Palitoy variants that look similar to Ledy?
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:12 am

no the one on ebay you have just put the link to has a green lining beacuse i asked the seller allreddy

the baggie bib i have is the same as the one in question with the white lining
and to be honist is the only second one i have seen
i have 2 other ledy bibs 1 green coat and 1 burgundy coat
the baggie bib i have machers the loose green coat ledy bib i have in evey way
and allso machers the burgundy bib minus the coat in evey way as well



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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:28 am

Nice find guys, even if the baggies are home made you got some mint bibs there. Would be interesting to find out where them baggies are from though.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Sun Aug 14, 2011 10:46 am

i don't think the baggies are home made

the reason why i say this is the bib baggie i have well the figure looks in mint condition as if it is new
and allso the coat is mint not a mark on it looks new
in other words it has never been out of the baggie
and allso the baggie bib that has been posted looks mint allso

you don't get many ledy bibs in mint condition normaly there is at least 1 minor pait rub or chip on the hands or lips
so to get 2 baggie ledy bibs with no wrighting on the bag and the figures are in mint condition
says to me these are the real deal
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Sun Aug 14, 2011 11:20 am

update you got me wondering about these so i have done some investigating

serched the ebay guys feedback where i got my ledy bib baggie from
and guess what the bib baggie posted in this thread by tk421 is from the same person

so i have emailed the guy where both of these have come from and asked where he got them from ?

just wating for a reply let you know when i get one ?
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:23 pm

Thanks for all the info guys! Its been a very interesting read. I'm guessing I shouldn't take him out of the bag just yet =).

There are no signs of manufacture markings on the baggy at all, and dosen't look like there has been at any stage.

The figure is dead mint, which tells me its been in that bag at least most of his life.

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Is this like yours?

The plastic its made of also looks and feels different to any other baggies I have purchased including one in the listing. Hard to explain but it feels like a heavier thicker plastic, quite dull, and very very slightly opaque, not sure if this is due to age, but it looks like its the way the bag was made.


About the mexico baggies, I have seen a baggie with "Made in Mexico" in black print across the bag. it was a squid head going for $70 bucks. I am still kicking myself today for not buying it.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Mon Aug 15, 2011 12:40 pm

i have to agree on the baggie description mine is the same

The plastic its made of also looks and feels different to any other baggies I have purchased including one in the listing. Hard to explain but it feels like a heavier thicker plastic, quite dull, and very very slightly opaque, not sure if this is due to age, but it looks like its the way the bag was made.


ok so it looks very exciting Very Happy we have found a new varient and as far as i know the only 2 LiLi Ledy bib baggies known or found so far in the world bounce
so tk421 do not open it :abducted:

i have been talking to ozio about this allso and he has confermed they are ledy bibs :Drool:
and he has told me to post pics of my LEDY bib baggie allso in this thread as they are of some inportance
so in all my excitment here is the other one












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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:35 pm

Did the seller get back to you with any info Jason?
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:59 pm

no mate i haven't had a reply yet i will send him anouther email Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:09 pm

A Shame he hasn't got back to ya, cool baggies all the same mate Cool
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:22 pm

hi buddy i have just sent him anouther email expressing the inportance of them

and explained why they are inportant

i will keep trying emailing him untill i do get a answer

so as soon as i get a reply i will post Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:02 pm

Hmm, I had usually a 12hr turn around with responses from this guy due to time difference. Maybe I'll give it a go if he dosen't respond in a couple of days.

Very nice baggie it is definately exactly the same, yours is in way nice condition than mine as it has a couple of tiny puncture marks. I'll post some full images of mine a little later today.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Mon Aug 15, 2011 7:10 pm

yes mine baggie is in very nice condition and the figure is mint Very Happy

but there is a munfacture fault on the figure at the back of the head there is what looks like a scar a bit like a open wound where the plastic has not molded properly a real shame
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Tue Aug 16, 2011 5:20 am

ok all i have had a reply of the seller on ebay where these 2 ledy bib baggies came from

this is my message to him....

Dear starwars1977-1985,

hello there can you please help ?

ok i showed the bib baggie off to my friends on the tig star wars forum
and it is a lili ledy bib fortuna varient after some investigation someone else on the star wars tig forum allso bought a lili ledy bib baggie off you as well he lives in austraila

anyway as it turns out these 2 lili ledy bib fortuna baggies are the only 2 know in the world there are lots of kenner bib fortuna baggies but not lili ledy baggies with lili ledy bib fortuna in them sealed
so we are trying to trace where they originaly came from as they are very inportant to star wars figure history
so if you could please help by letting us know where these came from it would be awesome
thanks for your time all the best jase


and this was his reply to me Sad Crying or Very sad

Dear jason11272stacey,

Hi Jase
Sorry for delay. Hell he might be worth hundreds then !!
I thought him to be a mailaway figure for collecting 5 pops etc..
I can't help where he came from I handle a lot of figures and don't keep records.
I will keep an eye for another for you though :-)
Dave

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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Tue Aug 16, 2011 7:46 am

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I can't help where he came from I handle a lot of figures and don't keep records.

Sounds like he needs a SW figure database lol!

Anyway bad jokes aside, we may never know then of the bag o' bib fortuna's origins Sad

I'm sure something will crop up on ebay or something eventually.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:42 am

Now I could be clutching to straws here, and this is a big call.

I have a Zuckuss baggie which I also believe to be LL. The plastic type feels somewhat similar. The bib one is more thicker though, they have about the same shine to the baggy too.


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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying a bag o' Bib Fortuna   Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:03 am

Nah that's a China baggie Zuckuss tongue Silver belly instead of grey, often confused as LL due to knee & heel circles.

EDIT: same goes for the China baggie Luke Bespin that looks LL ( I'm still a bit confused with it )
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