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PostSubject: Re: FAKE BLACK PALACE BLASTERS   Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:29 pm

@cantina_patron wrote:
@Rawlin wrote:

I'm not very happy about the new ones that get hard to id.

I agree with you there!
The trouble is as we find new ways to identify the repros, the scammers will use the information to improve their production (provided there is a profit in it).
I'm certainly glad I'm not just starting out in this hobby!

Yeah that would suck. Not knowing of repros and all.
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PostSubject: Re: FAKE BLACK PALACE BLASTERS   Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:34 am



Evil or Very Mad

Same seller as the original post. arvid72

"I have had these for about 7 or 8 years, and received them in a large lot of Original Vintage Star Wars accessories. Everything in that lot WAS original, but I have NEVER BEEN 100% SURE ABOUT THESE. I sold a few of them on eBay a few years ago, and only one collector that purchased one even questioned the authenticity, so I pulled the auction. As a long time collector I'd rather not sell items I thought to be original if they are not! So I will not claim these as original, even though they might be. "

100% FAKE
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PostSubject: Re: FAKE BLACK PALACE BLASTERS   Sat Jul 11, 2015 5:05 am

Hi guys,

bought this a few weeks ago http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301651478675? ... EBIDX%3AIT The seller assured me it was 100% legit as he hates repro etc etc. It got lost in the post, so he sent me another and it arrived this morning. After checking the guide on TIG http://www.imperialgunnery.com/palaceblasters.htm and it appears it may be a repro V2 as it doesn't have the tiny bump on the barrel. However, I'm not 100% convinced it's repro, even without the bump. It floats and sounds the same as my legit blasters when dropped. It's also very clean/well defined, with no flashing etc.The plastic seems to be identical to my original one- both have the same flexibility etc.

I've messaged the seller and this is the reply:

It is most defiantly not a repro. We do not deal with reproductions and have had this well before reproductions were even made. It is flexible, passes the water test. I have sold several of my authentic weapons and only one other person in over a year has thought it was a repro and they sited the same website as you have. Clearly there were several molds used to make these and I made certain that my photos clearly displayed what the weapon looked like. If you believe this "bump" theory why did you buy


Truth be told, I should've researched better before buying. Thought it looked good in the pic and didn't know that it needed a bump on the barrel  Rolling Eyes


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PostSubject: Re: FAKE BLACK PALACE BLASTERS   Sat Jul 11, 2015 8:21 am

Welcome to TIG, CazzaVR  welcome

Sorry, it looks like the repro V2 to me as well.

Here is the original auction photo along with a lightened version.


Lightened version of above photo:



It could be a recasting of the V2 repro with a softer, more flexible plastic.
The reason I think this is because the same seller is also flogging another repro-looking V2 but this time cast in grey.

TIG has only ever documented a black V2... so either we missed the grey version first time around or it's new.  
Advertised as original by same seller: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Star-Wars-100-Original-Luke-Jedi-Gray-Blaster-Gun-Weapon-Authentic-/291461736093?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43dc79269d

Seller's auction pic: Weapon is grey but has no dot.


Lightened pic:



Not only this, but some of the repro stickers the same seller is flogging also come with free repro instruction sheets on how to affix them. Two repros for one!

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PostSubject: Re: FAKE BLACK PALACE BLASTERS   Sat Jul 11, 2015 9:33 am

How awesome is that. "We don't deal in reproductions" just don't look at the reproduction stickers that we are selling. :I am stupid: lol!

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PostSubject: Re: FAKE BLACK PALACE BLASTERS   Sat Jul 11, 2015 10:40 am

Thanks for your help chaps cheers

The high quality of it has really taken me aback! It's as detailed as my two original blasters, floats, sounds the same when dropped and 'feels' exactly the same! Going to send it back for a refund...
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PostSubject: Re: FAKE BLACK PALACE BLASTERS   Wed Mar 30, 2016 7:23 am




So these floating black palace blasters without the dot on barrel are still showing up.  NO other original palace blaster of any colour has ever appeared MOC, baggie or otherwise without the dot.

Unless a seller can prove otherwise they are WRONG to claim these as vintage originals.
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PostSubject: Re: FAKE BLACK PALACE BLASTERS   Wed Mar 30, 2016 3:29 pm

Damn that's scary Shocked

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PostSubject: Re: FAKE BLACK PALACE BLASTERS   Fri Apr 08, 2016 2:01 am


Fake on the left has a flat barrel end



It' slightly thicker, I'll work on better pictures Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: FAKE BLACK PALACE BLASTERS   Fri Apr 08, 2016 4:02 am

There seem to be a few tell tale signs, lack of detail on the mussel/scope and thicker into places.

Also noticed 1 or 2 people have recently found been tricked with these on FB, so it'll be good to get the info out there.

I also noticed that snakeman seller on eBay has 7 packs?? Of repros are they new or old?


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PostSubject: Re: FAKE BLACK PALACE BLASTERS   Fri Apr 08, 2016 5:09 am

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