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PostSubject: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 04, 2012 10:12 am

Hi guys, I have 4 Admiral Ackbar Staffs from USA. Some months ago I bought 2 Staffs here in Denmark. Both Staffs was much thicker than the 4 I have from USA.

Could they be from Tri-logo cards ? and does any of you know if the tri-logo staff is thicker than the kenner staff ?

Maybe some of you have ackbar on tri-logo card ?
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 04, 2012 10:56 am

Two moulds were used for the Ackbar staff.

http://www.imperialgunnery.com/thestaffsaxessection.htm

V1 mould

Admiral Ackbar Staff ? AckbarStaff_V1

V2 mould

Admiral Ackbar Staff ? AckbarStaff_V2


I always thought that V1 was released on European cards, Palitoy?





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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 04, 2012 11:00 am

If it were me I'd much prefer to have the thicker staff. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 04, 2012 11:07 am

@kisstour03 wrote:
If it were me I'd much prefer to have the thicker staff. Smile


Probably Ms Ackbar as well. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 04, 2012 11:13 am

Hi Marco,

I have 2 V1 from some danish childhood collections, they could come from european cards, but there was also sold kenner cards in Denmark.

I have 4 V2 all bought in USA but again there was sold kenner cards and tri-logo cards in USA and those could have been around in many countries.

The only thing I can confirm is the 2 V1 the guys I bought them from was the only owners and the cards they came from was bought in Denmark, unfortunately they could not remember what type of card the figures came from, one of them could remember what store it was bought in. But that did not help much.

Maybe Joe have Ackbar on Tri-logo card and confirm something.
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 04, 2012 11:41 am

Lars read the PM i sent you about the staffs from the lot .

The other one i have (sold) is V1 , i can only remember them from my own child hood . And i had a few akbar's .
I think i stil have one of them some where .

I have only seen V2 as a repo where i it was white'ich in the center and then paintet black . Before that and this post i only thoght it was a BAD repo version . Did not know that there was to versions of it .

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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 04, 2012 2:02 pm

Thanks Søren :-) I will read the mail Very Happy

I also have a little theory, V1 was with the Taiwan figure and V2 was with the Hong Kong figure.

The 2 V1 I have came both with a Taiwan figure and I also have 2 Admiral Ackbar in sealed baggies with Hong Kong stamp and they have both V2.

What do you guys think ? and does any of you have ackbar in baggie or on card, so they can check this theory for me ?
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 04, 2012 2:18 pm

@pomse2001 wrote:

I also have a little theory, V1 was with the Taiwan figure and V2 was with the Hong Kong figure.


The Taiwan Ackbar seems to be packed with the thinner staff (V2).

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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 04, 2012 3:21 pm

Here's a link that may be of intrest, I had (still might) 2 V1 staffs in 2 different sizes. The original thread is in here some where but I coppied this in the reference section. Dont know how true but since then I've seen the thicker one with a loose meccano variant and also described as the tri-logo variant.
http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t2532-ackbar-staff-question
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 04, 2012 4:33 pm

My Trilogo Ackbar is with the thicker staff.
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 04, 2012 4:39 pm

@yeah-sus wrote:
my hong kong moc has the thicker staff

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checked my loose taiwan and he got the thinner one

yes my V1 got circles


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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 04, 2012 5:20 pm

Thanks guys, the theory crashed a little bit.

Thanks Marco for the picture, could it be that it is a taiwan figure on a hong kong card ? I think I remember a thread on the forum some months ago where we talked about that the coo not always matched the stamp on the figure ?

Hi snaggletooth, sounds interesting about meccano and tri-logo. Do you know what stamp there is on the figures from those cards ?

Hi yeah-sus, to me this look like the thick staff, but I could be wrong, mate.

Hi Mike, cool moc and nice to know it is on the Tri-logo card. Can you see the coo on the figure ?
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 04, 2012 6:44 pm

To me the V1 (thick staff) is more common. My Tri MOC (now opened Sad ) is V1 & all my loose Taiwan & HK figures have V1.
I have a V2 thin staff with a no COO figure & a MIHK MOC & a MIHK baggie. :scratch:


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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 04, 2012 6:48 pm

James, are all your V1 staffs the same size and thickness?

Yeah-sus, can you see the mold circles on yours?
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 04, 2012 6:53 pm

@snaggletooth wrote:
James, are all your V1 staffs the same size and thickness?

Yeah-sus, can you see the mold circles on yours?
yes
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 04, 2012 6:56 pm

@yeah-sus wrote:
@snaggletooth wrote:
James, are all your V1 staffs the same size and thickness?

Yeah-sus, can you see the mold circles on yours?
yes

Thanks, so would you say yours is a V1 thin version?
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 04, 2012 7:02 pm

@snaggletooth wrote:
@yeah-sus wrote:
@snaggletooth wrote:
James, are all your V1 staffs the same size and thickness?

Yeah-sus, can you see the mold circles on yours?
yes

Thanks, so would you say yours is a V1 thin version?
i mixed them up my hong kong is v1 fat version with circles
i post a picture in a few minutes

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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSat Feb 04, 2012 7:31 pm

@snaggletooth wrote:
@yeah-sus wrote:
@snaggletooth wrote:
James, are all your V1 staffs the same size and thickness?

Yeah-sus, can you see the mold circles on yours?
yes

Thanks, so would you say yours is a V1 thin version?

Scott V1 is thick (not thin Suspect )

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V2 on the right

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V2 in a MIHK MOC & baggie
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 05, 2012 4:09 am

Very interesting guys.

I also have a thick one from søren, søren received some palitoy cards with the figures. But he is not sure that this is the correct card for the figure.

But maybe the thick one is on tri-logo and palitoy cards and the thin one is on kenner cards and baggies.

What do you guys think ?
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 05, 2012 4:25 am

@pomse2001 wrote:

I also have a little theory, V1 was with the Taiwan figure and V2 was with the Hong Kong figure.



@pomse2001 wrote:
Thanks guys, the theory crashed a little bit.

Thanks Marco for the picture, could it be that it is a taiwan figure on a hong kong card ? I think I remember a thread on the forum some months ago where we talked about that the coo not always matched the stamp on the figure ?



If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

(It is a Taiwan Ackbar from appearance, "Made in Taiwan" is printed on the backside, and it has the thin staff, so your theory crashed totally not only a bit. Don't worry too much about that, theories are designed to be challenged, but once they are proven wrong, they need to be dismissed in honor of the truth) Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 05, 2012 4:28 am

@pomse2001 wrote:


But maybe the thick one is on tri-logo and palitoy cards and the thin one is on kenner cards and baggies.

What do you guys think ?

That sounds like a much better theory, Lars. Very Happy

Let's see whether other members can come up with evidence to counter this theory.
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 05, 2012 4:38 am

yeah-sus has pictured a MIHK MOC with fat V1 saber so if it is not a Palitoy or Tri card both theories fail.

not to come off as rude but "Rule 3. If you dont know, dont say. If you got theories, make sure you got some sorta proof to back it up. Nothings worse than having theories with no proof"
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 05, 2012 4:40 am

@pomse2001 wrote:

Hi Mike, cool moc and nice to know it is on the Tri-logo card. Can you see the coo on the figure ?

It´s a Taiwan.


I have some Toltoys Ackbar Mailer. They are all with the thinner staff.
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 05, 2012 7:28 am

I have pm'd a friend with a ackbar focus i hope he chime in or give his info of his+10 mocs soon
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 05, 2012 8:12 am

I take it the middle one is another Repo then? All 3 float the middle one is round and not flat'ish like the top one.
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