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PostSubject: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:02 pm

FOTW: JAWA

Please feel free to use the following links to help you expand your knowledge of the figure!



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- The Imperial Gunnery -- Here is the legendary information on JAWA BLASTERS
http://www.imperialgunnery.com/jawablaster.htm
CLICK HERE

- The Imperial Gunnery -- Information on JAWA CLOTH CLOAKS and VINYL CAPES
http://www.imperialgunnery.com/
CLICK HERE

- An excellent pair of threads by Dr Dengar -- the LILI LEDY guide -- JAWA info can be found on PAGE 11 as well as guides and rules surrounding LILI LEDY
http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t2135p255-the-lili-ledy-guide-discussion-thread-part-1#Jawa
CLICK HERE

- Dr Dengar's POCH/PBP guide -- JAWA info located on PAGES 16, 17 as well as guides and rules surrounding POCH/PBPs
http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t4427-the-poch-pbp-guide-discussion-thread-part-one#
CLICK HERE

- PROTOTYPES and PRE-PRODUCTIONS by stevemac1976 -- Exactly that, take a look!
http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t1221-the-pre-production-prototypes-thread#
CLICK HERE

- The Jedi Temple Archives -- CARDBACKS and LOOSE JAWA guides
http://www.jeditemplearchives.com/vintagemoc/#cardbacks
CLICK HERE

All of the following sites, threads, and pages above have taken a lot of hard work and years to put together.

It is a priceless well of information by the TIG team and other avid collectors and fans.

Thank you for your dedication!
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If you're still having trouble finding what you're looking for, please feel free to ask!


-- And don't forget to check out all of the other posts below as they are LOADED with useful information and pictures!

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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Sat Feb 25, 2012 8:20 pm



Kenner limbs on the left


vs 'China' 79 back


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PostSubject: Jawaaaaaa : )   Sat Feb 25, 2012 10:55 pm





Lili Ledy version coo matches Kenner coo but these cousins are very different....





VC Jawa


Oh sorry : )

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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Sun Feb 26, 2012 8:36 am



Smooth cape - standard cape & Vinal, the smooth capes come on POTF cards & are No COO.



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palitoy Tape sealed



Palitoy - Land of the jawas
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Sun Feb 26, 2012 12:24 pm

This is my jawa variations









Meccano SW 12-back



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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:31 pm

ESB 47-back. This example has a Palitoy sticker on the back. Couldn't find my picture of it though.



Edit: Took a new picture of the back.





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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:41 pm

@frunkstar wrote:


Smooth cape - standard cape & Vinal, the smooth capes come on POTF cards & are No COO.

Hi Frank, did your smooth cape come off a POTF card for sure and which COO is it on the guide?

Nothing to add for me this time that hasn't all ready been added.
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:31 pm

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I don't post much on this forum but i took bunch of pictures for the fotm :
jawa coo#1
[img][/img]
jawa coo#1
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jawa coo#2
[img][/img]
jawa coo#2
[img][/img]
jawa coo#3
[img][/img]
jawa coo#3
[img][/img]
jawa coo#4
[img][/img]
jawa coo#4
[img][/img]
jawa coo#5
[img][/img]
jawa coo#5 regular cape
jawa coo#5 smooth cape
lonely Palitoy jawa coo#6
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jawa coo#7
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jawa coo#7 ledy like bandolier in the middle , coo#1+4 style bandolier on the right
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jawa coo#8
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jawa coo#8 , coo#1+4 style bandolier in the middle , ledy like bandolier on the right
[img][/img]
i noticed you tiggers like ledy's so here we go:
ledy jawa coo#8 (the cape on the bottom right one might be fake or just faded )
[img][/img]
both the kenner #8 and ledy coo's come in two styles ,one with the G lining up with the last 7 and one wth the G in the middle of the 77 unsure ,but i'll let Wolf decide if they deserve an extra picture.
one of my favorits :
discolored #1 coo jawa with repaired toltoys vinyl cape
[img][/img]
and one more pic to confirm i might actually be a little bit jawa crazy
[img][/img]


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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:20 pm

[quote="orangpendek"][img][/img]
I don't post much on this forum but i took bunch of pictures for the fotm :
jawa coo#1
[img][/img]

OMG this is a Jawa cloning facility!

Also someone should comment about the paint scheme for the eyes since i read there are several ones but i cannot recollect on them precisely!
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:24 pm


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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Mon Feb 27, 2012 5:08 am

@orangpendek wrote:
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I don't post much on this forum but i took bunch of pictures for the fotm :
i can add some more if it's useful for the thread.

Great army you got going there orangepenek, i think it would be very useful if you could post pictures of all the different COO's, capes and blasters you have.
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:41 am

@orangpendek wrote:
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i can add some more if it's useful for the thread.

OMG...this is just....crazy of course...but also ....I dont know...simply stunning!!!


You can really halp to answer a question I have now for a long time! Your the ultimate source to do!

I have noticed that some coos can have both bandolier molds!

So there is two different bandoliers ( I think you have noticed) and I would like to know on which coos do you have both bandoliers???

That would be a great research!!

Thanks

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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:32 pm

I love the bookshelf of Jawas. Very cool..

Just a few odds and ends for display.

Hand Painted First Shot with Unproduced Cape




Mock-up/Alernate Deco Design



POTF Jawa Cromalin

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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:51 pm

Heres my 12" Jawa



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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:49 pm

Lovely jawas everybody ! i've added some more pics to to my earlier post to keep them all together , i'm affraid my retirement home for well played with jawas is not going to be helpfull to find out which capes and blasters go with which figures since most of them have seen some action in their time.
Wolff , there are actually three types of bandoliers :
"flat" coo#1+4
"medium" coo#8 ledy
"articulated" coo#3+4
I'll send you a pm to discuss the combinations further without boring anyone Very Happy




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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Mon Feb 27, 2012 6:52 pm

Post the info up in here. Thats the kind of info we need for the thread. Makes for a better discussion. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:36 pm

Ok ,here we go

coo#1+4 as found in both vinyl and cloth capes have large eyes , a slim torso , flat bandoliers , slim limbs ,small feet and thin fingers with a tiny "nipple" on the thumbs.

coo#2+3 at least one of the two is also found in vc's (waiting for one to arrive in the mail) have large eyes on an articulated face , a large torso , well articulated bandoliers , thick limbs (shoulders) wide feet , thick hands (difficult to hold the blaster)

ledy coo#8 slim torso extra crease on the left cheek of the hood, medium articulated bandoliers , slim limbs ,small but higher and longer and rounded feet and thin fingers with rounded thumbs .

coo#5+6 have the same torso as #1+4 but combined with the #2+3 limbs with faded coo's

coo #7 have small sometimes different sized eyes placed both narrow and wide ,both ledy like torsos and bandoliers and #1+4 like torsos and bandoliers, ledy like but thinner feet, thin hands and rounded thumbs.

kenner coo#8 small sometimes different sized eyes placed narrow and wide, ledy like and #1+4 like torso's ,thin limbs , ledy like feet but flatter and less rounded, thin hands with rounded thumbs.

i know it all comes down to cavities in the molds but it's interesting to see kenner had some basic models like coo#1+4
and #2+3 that have different sizes but usually they are put together in the right way, thick torso with thick limbs ,thin torso's with thin limbs .A not so common exeption is discolored #1+4 limbs , they can also be found combined with coo#2+3 torso's but i haven't found this combination yet without the discoloring.Funny thing about the discoloring is that i have only found it on #1+4 .
A small body with #2+3is also a combination i haven't seen very often ,but that doesn't mean it's not out there by the loads.
Since i haven't found a combination of #7+8 limbs with #1,2,3or4 torso suggests they were perhaps made at a different locations.
The model of the #5+6 jawas combined with the simular plastic type might suggest they were maybe made at the same location.

Some of the differences in details on all these figures might be explained by the different types of plastic used at different factories but other differences are simply differences .Please keep in mind i am by no means an expert on these figures and i have a lot more questions than knowledge when it comes to production ,assembly , countries of origin and those kind of things.
One thing i would love to find out is what the original sculpt looked like , i have seen pictures of unmarked handpainted figures in the awesome madbrownz collection and they looked like different models but their molds should be based on the same sculpt.Does anybody have a comparison shot of all known prototypes and preproduction figures ?


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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:00 am

very interesting...I have a bit to add an explain......but have no time now.. Sad

I will edit this post with information!! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Wed Feb 29, 2012 6:55 am



Mock-up/Alernate Deco Design


Question for Sith jawa , can you tell me what the coo´s are on these mock/ups ?
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:35 pm

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Mock-up/Alernate Deco Design


Question for Sith jawa , can you tell me what the coo´s are on these mock/ups ?

To be honest, they are production figures that a Kenner Engineer "mocked up" as a possible bridge between the Vinyl and Cloth cape. Two were painted with brown liquatex paint and third with a brown magic marker. I have not inspected the copyright information closely, but it is there. I would think the COO's would be the same as regular 12 Back Jawas released on earlier SW cardbacks. I am very careful when handling these figures as some of the paint has chipped in some areas.. Hope this helps..
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Wed Feb 29, 2012 10:03 pm

Where were these mock ups found? Did you buy them from a Kenner employee? I'm sorry if this was already covered. Also curious if you have seen other mock ups out there like these?


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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Thu Mar 01, 2012 4:34 am



To be honest, they are production figures that a Kenner Engineer "mocked up" as a possible bridge between the Vinyl and Cloth cape. Two were painted with brown liquatex paint and third with a brown magic marker. I have not inspected the copyright information closely, but it is there. I would think the COO's would be the same as regular 12 Back Jawas released on earlier SW cardbacks. I am very careful when handling these figures as some of the paint has chipped in some areas.. Hope this helps.. [/quote]

Thanks Jason ,that's exactly why i'm intersted to find out if one of them is a 6 or 7 coo .Vinyl capes are commonly assumed to only show up on number 1,2,3 or 4.Since these mockups were produced while the vc was used these could tel us if the #6 and 7 were produced at the same time or not.When i look at some carded examples the face paint and hands look more like 6 or 7 but it's hard to tell from just a picture.
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Fri Mar 02, 2012 3:41 pm

The figures are branded with COO #2. Hope this helps.
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:25 pm

@sith jawa wrote:
The figures are branded with COO #2. Hope this helps.

Hi Jason, please excuse my ignorance but I'm not entirely sure what these moc/up's are. Where they done before the production on the Jawas really got going and is it therefore safe to presume that the COO #2 would have been found on the 12back cards?

@orangpendek wrote:

both the kenner #8 and ledy coo's come in two styles ,one with the G lining up with the last 7 and one wth the G in the middle of the 77

Hi orangependek, I'd love to see a comparison picture of both of those.
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:16 am

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@sith jawa wrote:
The figures are branded with COO #2. Hope this helps.

Hi Jason, please excuse my ignorance but I'm not entirely sure what these moc/up's are. Where they done before the production on the Jawas really got going and is it therefore safe to presume that the COO #2 would have been found on the 12back cards?

They are production figures that were painted ie mocked-up with a different color and scheme. Similar to the Black Stormtrooper and VAC Metal Tie Pilot, this was common back in the "old" Star Wars days. The jawas had already been produced with a vinyl cape, but the figures served as an idea that never went forward.
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