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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Sat Mar 03, 2012 8:32 am

@sith jawa wrote:
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The figures are branded with COO #2. Hope this helps.

Hi Jason, please excuse my ignorance but I'm not entirely sure what these moc/up's are. Where they done before the production on the Jawas really got going and is it therefore safe to presume that the COO #2 would have been found on the 12back cards?

They are production figures that were painted ie mocked-up with a different color and scheme. Similar to the Black Stormtrooper and VAC Metal Tie Pilot, this was common back in the "old" Star Wars days. The jawas had already been produced with a vinyl cape, but the figures served as an idea that never went forward.

Thanks for that explanation Jason.
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:08 pm

Here's my Jawas.

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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Sat Mar 03, 2012 3:28 pm

my jawas, from left to right:

COO 8, COO 5, COO 1:







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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:13 pm



Hi orangependek, I'd love to see a comparison picture of both of those.[/quote]
Hello snaggletooth It's just a tiny detail, ledy on the left, kenner on the right


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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Mon Mar 05, 2012 6:21 pm

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Hello snaggletooth It's just a tiny detail, ledy on the left, kenner on the right



Thanks orangependek, they all count no matter how small, to me at least. Notice the HK seems to be in the same place and it's the size of the gap between the copyright that pushes the date up.
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:41 am


My Ledy Jawa also has COO#8 with a smaller space between '©' and 'G.M.F.G.I. 1977'.

Jawa: Lili Ledy on the right


I wonder whether the slightly different COO#8, so the one with a larger space between '©' and 'G.M.F.G.I. 1977', can also be found on Ledy Jawas.

I understood from Wolff that slightly different COOs indicate a pair of steel moulds that in general travelled together.



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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:27 am


I wonder whether the slightly different COO#8, so the one with a larger space between '©' and 'G.M.F.G.I. 1977', can also be found on Ledy Jawas.

I understood from Wolff that slightly different COOs indicate a pair of steel moulds that in general travelled together.



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Hi dr.D the two jawas on the left side of the picture are both Ledys ,the ones on the right side of the picture are Kenner so i gues the travelling pairs theory holds up.The only difference is kenner coo#8 uses two types of torso while Lili ledy uses one .
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:30 am

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Hi dr.D the two jawas on the left side of the picture are both Ledys ,the ones on the right side of the picture are Kenner so i gues the travelling pairs theory holds up.The only difference is kenner coo#8 uses two types of torso while Lili ledy uses one .

Thanks for clearing that up! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:31 am

Comparrison shot of the small, medium & large hoods seen on the rough capes.

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Does anyone know whether these are associated with particular cardbacks?


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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:28 am

POTF
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:30 am

Hi CP, any chance of a close up of the POTF Jawa, can you tell if it's the smooth cape version?


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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Tue Mar 06, 2012 9:44 am

@snaggletooth wrote:
Hi PC, any chance of a close up of the POTF Jawa, can you tell if it's the smooth cape version?

The cape is smooth.
The yellow bubble doesn't help, but hopefully the picture is clear enough for you.
[img][/img]
As far as I am aware all POTF Jawas have this cape. I have not heard about, or seen POTF cards with the rough cape.
However, the smooth cape is not exclusive to the POTF cardback. My loose childhood example came from either a late Palitoy ROTJ or a Tri-logo card.
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:07 pm

@cantina_patron wrote:
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Hi CP, any chance of a close up of the POTF Jawa, can you tell if it's the smooth cape version?

The cape is smooth.
The yellow bubble doesn't help, but hopefully the picture is clear enough for you.
[img][/img]
As far as I am aware all POTF Jawas have this cape. I have not heard about, or seen POTF cards with the rough cape.
However, the smooth cape is not exclusive to the POTF cardback. My loose childhood example came from either a late Palitoy ROTJ or a Tri-logo card.

Thank's CP, Most of the smooth caped Jawas I've seen for sale are mostly labeled as Palitoy, would be great to see one on a card. Any ideas if #5 is exclusive to the POTF figure and #6 to Palitoy?
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:58 pm

Hi snaggletooth, unfortunately I don't know enough about the coo's to answer your question. Certainly my childhood figure & two other smooth cape Jawas that I purchased in the UK have coo #6. Wolff clearly gathered appropriate hard evidence before classifying it as Pailtoy on his guide.
With regards to coo #5, perhaps one of our state side members can shed some light on whether there is evidence that it is exclusive to POTF cards.
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Tue Mar 06, 2012 4:31 pm

@cantina_patron wrote:
Hi snaggletooth, unfortunately I don't know enough about the coo's to answer your question. Certainly my childhood figure & two other smooth cape Jawas that I purchased in the UK have coo #6. Wolff clearly gathered appropriate hard evidence before classifying it as Pailtoy on his guide.
With regards to coo #5, perhaps one of our state side members can shed some light on whether there is evidence that it is exclusive to POTF cards.

Would be great if a few of the guys from the states could chip in with there COO's knowing that they came of POTF cards, I know Frank has one and I'm sure he will let us know when he get's a few free minutes free to check it out Wink
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Sat Mar 24, 2012 6:11 am

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Factory error with legs fitted back to front.
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:16 am

Got this jawa recently, didn't think on it back then but the bandolier is very dark brownblackish. I'm suspecting custompainted, but I can't rub off the paint and it feels legit. But don't look legit.
Was there a Jawa with very dark bandolier?
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:36 pm

I LOVE the jawa with the backwards legs. Any chance that beautiful figure is for sale?

I do not remember seeing a bandolier that dark before. Not that I have seen every jawa out there, but that appears almost black. If the paint does not rub off, it is probably an over spray or something?? Very cool though..
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:44 pm

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I LOVE the jawa with the backwards legs. Any chance that beautiful figure is for sale?

I do not remember seeing a bandolier that dark before. Not that I have seen every jawa out there, but that appears almost black. If the paint does not rub off, it is probably an over spray or something?? Very cool though..

Same here, though I must admit, jawa have not been one of the figures I've been most interested in so I haven't looked around that much. This though is the first one I see with this dark bandolier and it makes me suspicious that it is custom, on the paint wear I can't see any second layer underneath. On the picture it looks black purple, when looking at it looks black rather then what the camera picked up. But I don't know. Most likely it's a custom from my point of view. I dunno why though, it's not just some normal color that can be rubbed off.

Edit: Looks like the inside of the hood have been painted with the same color.
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:08 am

I've not seen or heard of a Jawa with that colour paint on the bandolier either. If the same paint has been used on the face, what is the paint on the hands like?

@sith jawa wrote:
I LOVE the jawa with the backwards legs. Any chance that beautiful figure is for sale?

I'm glad you like him, but I'm affraid he is not for sale.
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:51 pm

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I've not seen or heard of a Jawa with that colour paint on the bandolier either. If the same paint has been used on the face, what is the paint on the hands like?

The hands are matt black normal jawa color. It's going in the donation bin Razz this one can't be real.

I've only owned like 10 jawas but I've seen pretty many, haven't really payed much attention though, but one in that large army of jawas posted earlier should look like this if it was real.
I don't know what color is used. It's pretty well done I guess. Wonder why he didn't paint the hands as well and I don't know why he painted it at all. Some sort of scaming attempt maybe.
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:22 am

@Rawlin wrote:
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I've not seen or heard of a Jawa with that colour paint on the bandolier either. If the same paint has been used on the face, what is the paint on the hands like?

The hands are matt black normal jawa color. It's going in the donation bin Razz this one can't be real.

Definatey sounds suspicious to me. All the jawas I've owned/seen have had the same black paint on both the hands & face.
I'd be inclined to keep it so that it doesn't get into circulation & end up being sold as an uber rare variant by some scammer. And you never know, some more information may come to light.
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:14 am

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I've not seen or heard of a Jawa with that colour paint on the bandolier either. If the same paint has been used on the face, what is the paint on the hands like?

The hands are matt black normal jawa color. It's going in the donation bin Razz this one can't be real.

Definatey sounds suspicious to me. All the jawas I've owned/seen have had the same black paint on both the hands & face.
I'd be inclined to keep it so that it doesn't get into circulation & end up being sold as an uber rare variant by some scammer. And you never know, some more information may come to light.

Thats true, might as well keep it. But it does feel custom. I'm going to dig up my other jawas and check what face color those have.
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:46 am

I bought this jawa two years ago along with other figures in a childhood lot from France...
I kept it becouse of the weird stamp, it looks like the #8 coo but its almost erased and have no dots between "GMFGI 1977"
I dont know if this could be the Meccano Jawa or just a regular Kenner figure with a mold flaw?? scratch
Any thoughts??



BTW ,very nice and interesting thread lads Wink
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PostSubject: Re: The TIG FOTW Thread: Jawa   Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:50 am

@Rawlin wrote:

The hands are matt black normal jawa color. It's going in the donation bin Razz this one can't be real.

I've only owned like 10 jawas but I've seen pretty many, haven't really payed much attention though, but one in that large army of jawas posted earlier should look like this if it was real.
I don't know what color is used. It's pretty well done I guess. Wonder why he didn't paint the hands as well and I don't know why he painted it at all. Some sort of scaming attempt maybe.

Hi Rawlin i have checked all the jawas and besides some dark brown ones i can't find any that resemble the one in your picture, the faces and bandoliers are all different colours.I'd call it a custom instead of a scamming attempt ,unles there's a documented chuck norris double black belt version Laughing nobody's seen before the paintjob doesn't add any value to the figure.I'd love to see it in person though.

@javiswspain wrote:
I bought this jawa two years ago along with other figures in a childhood lot from France...
I kept it becouse of the weird stamp, it looks like the #8 coo but its almost erased and have no dots between "GMFGI 1977"
I dont know if this could be the Meccano Jawa or just a regular Kenner figure with a mold flaw?? scratch
Any thoughts??

Jawi, from what i understand of the plastic injection process this kind of lack of detail is caused by preassure or temperature problems of the injection nozzle like the "short shot " hands.I don't think this can be traced back to the Meccano company ,
from what i have read here Meccano received their figures from the far east like most of the other companies and sealed them onto their own cardbacks after touching up scratched paint. Does anybody know how to tell a Meccano jawa from a Kenner one besides the cardback ?
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