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PostSubject: Undiscovered COO Variants   Mon May 14, 2012 2:19 pm

Hey All,
The purpose of this thread is simple...if you have a COO variant NOT in Wolffe's COO guide, post it here! Instead of waiting for an update, we can make our own. study
So far this is what I have found...what do you have...?
Thanks for looking!
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AT-AT Commander






As you can see this AT-AT Commander is very similar to COO #1. If you look at the figure's leg you can see that the LFL is not separated by periods. All of the variants in the guide that have a scarred out COO have periods in between the LFL. This particular one is a hybrid - scarred out COO with NO periods in the LFL.

Darth Vader





This version of Darth Vader besides not being in the COO guide does not share similarities with any of the other Vader's pictured.







This Darth Vader shares similarities with both COO #3 and COO #6 but it is still different then both of those. If you can't see it in the picture the 1977 has a period after it. I found this figure in a collection purchased from France.






This version is very close to one pictured above, but is also different (note where the "G" in "Kong" ends in relation to the "1977" above it). This also came from the same French lot as the above figure.





Darth Vader with "Made In Hong Kong" COO, nothing in the guide to compare this with.





Another Darth Vader with a "Hong Kong" COO, also with nothing to compare it to.

Gamorrean Guard






Here is another Macau COO for the Gamorrean Guard. This looks to be very similar to COO #2, except the "H.K." has been replaced with Macau. If you look at the "1983" you can see the "1" is spaced away from the "983".


IG-88





This figure is very similar to COO #3, except the "Hong Kong" has been neatly removed.

Luke Skywalker





This Luke is very similar to COO #8 except the "China" has been milled out.













Both of the above Lukes share the same COO, I just wanted to spotlight the different hair colors sharing this COO. These look similar to COO #2, take note of the "G" in Kong and its placement under the "1977".


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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Mon May 14, 2012 2:51 pm



Pat,

Thank you very much for sharing your COO research here.

You made some excellent pics which clarify the small differences very well. :clap:

I am going to follow this thread with very much interest and hope more members will share their pics, including Wolff himself.

Hopefully we have enough material in the end to update his COO guide.
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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Mon May 14, 2012 4:08 pm

Hahahahaha.....very good start with a faked coo!! .... Shocked

Have fun......you are still missing 458 that are not in my old guide!!
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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Mon May 14, 2012 4:44 pm

Are you saying the AT-AT Commander is fake? Did someone "make" these? I see another one on eBay now and it's in the U.K. Mine came from a US seller. Would be good to alert the community about these!
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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Mon May 14, 2012 4:47 pm

@RetroRewindToys wrote:
Are you saying the AT-AT Commander is fake? Did someone "make" these? I see another one on eBay now and it's in the U.K. Mine came from a US seller. Would be good to alert the community about these!

No...the Luke raised bar doesnt look good at all!

It looks like the one I posted as fake month ago! Ill bett under UV light you see the bar is touched up (because china was cut off).

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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Mon May 14, 2012 5:17 pm

Just checked & nothing on the bar!




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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Mon May 14, 2012 8:24 pm


no COO Death Star Droid from : http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1024824/
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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Tue May 15, 2012 1:24 am

strange......the bar is definatley not molded that way. Its always a double bar! Check other pictures from ie Glasslite or other Mec Lukes! It looks different!

Yours has cut off China! I have one too but mine has visible touch ups. The funny thing on mine is it came in a lot. Wasnt described as Mec and was very cheap. So why should someone fake this and not pointingf it out??

Where have you purchased yours??

I have not the time at the moment but will do my best to find the old pictures/or thread tonight!



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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Tue May 15, 2012 7:23 am

Good initiative Pat, thanks for sharing here on TIG!



Here is my low-sonic weld no coo Princess Leia that shares an almost identical coo as the Glasslite.











Pat, I remember you had one of these too along with Jeremy and Lee.
Here is the original discussion:
Failed sonic-weld no coo Leia with same coo as Glasslite



and here is the low sonic-weld point on her neck and shoulders:


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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Tue May 15, 2012 8:57 am

I have only had one other Meccano Luke (COO #10) in hand before this one (COO #11). This figure came in a huge lot from France, in the pictures the seller sent me you couldn't make out what anything was (variant wise), so it wasn't advertised as anything special. Here is a picture of another Meccano Luke with COO #11. Does this look like it has the double bar as well?



Anyone else have this figure? Seeing more would help!

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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Tue May 15, 2012 9:33 am

Hey Paul,
Hope all is well & thanks for adding the Leia! Yes, I still have mine! I love the figures with failed sonic welding they are a lot of fun Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Tue May 15, 2012 2:23 pm

Hey Pat

I too before Wolff posted thought that your Luke coo looked a bit iffy. Here is a picture of my
no coo raised bar Luke's (one with 1977 up and with 1977 down) Have a look at the rounded
ends of the bar and you will see what Wolff means about a 'double bar'. I have had quite a few
of these rarer variants through my hands and they all have the double bar. Yours just doesn't look
right to me even though you have done the uv test. It does look tampered with to me :scratch:

I would ask Wolff whether he thinks it could simply be a factory error china Luke minus the country
stamp (China Luke's don't have the double bar incidently)

Hope the picture helps anyway...

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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Tue May 15, 2012 3:57 pm

Thanks Lee....again...for supporting me in engklish and with the right pictures!

Just to add: Altering-process is as follows:

HK 3-line --> raised bar with china --> then Mec and Glasslite Luke with second raised bar! Thats why there should be a double bar. First deletes HK...second deletes China!
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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Tue May 15, 2012 9:09 pm

Hey Lee,
Thanks for the pics, I own a Glasslite & the Meccano COO #10 so I am familiar with the double bar. So I busted out a magnifying glass & I can make out parts of where the China was. Was the China milled out & then the second bar stamped above it? When I compared this figure to the China COO #8, they look (different shades of yellow hair) and feel different (the French one is tacky feeling) so I doubt it's a short shot of any kind based off of that.
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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Tue May 15, 2012 11:08 pm

If its tacky feeling, it could be either repainted or deteriating, one or the other. I bought a so-called brown hair LFB one time and his hair was like that. Come to find out, it was repainted over the blonde
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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Wed May 16, 2012 12:02 am

Definitely not repainted or touched up - that would have shown up under the black light. Deterioration is possible, but I wonder if it's the paint or plastic used. A few of the figures from the French lot also feel like this.
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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Wed May 16, 2012 1:22 am



Im not sure....your pictures are quite dark. If I work them a bit in PS it looks like the bar is darker on yours too!!





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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Wed May 16, 2012 1:29 am

Anyway...its funny a second pops up. Both (mine and yours) have the typical orange neck which doesnt appear on china dudes!

Maybe there was a little (hand altered) batch that left the factory......strange indeed!

And I still have to say: Your bar looks exactly like mine and its definatley cut off...no used mold, short shot etc....this would look way different. It must be cut...if its before spraying the legs or after....but its cut.
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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Wed May 16, 2012 4:51 am

I know it's probably not a production figure ,the HK wicket on the left (darker)



do all no COO Power Droids trace back to Billy Boy?
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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Wed May 16, 2012 9:11 am

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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Wed May 16, 2012 2:23 pm

@aussiejames wrote:
I know it's probably not a production figure ,the HK wicket on the left (darker)



do all no COO Power Droids trace back to Billy Boy?


Yes...HK Wicket is pre production!

Yes....no coo Gonk is faked from Billyboy! All of them Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Wed May 16, 2012 3:09 pm



Very good overview of the raised bar Lukes, Wolff!!!

Thanks for sharing those insights! :clap:
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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:15 am

I forgot about this thread: http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t468p15-basic-coo-checklist
@jawa.57 wrote:
i have made the pictures and i have exactly 39 new COO

gamorrean guard x2


fx7 x2



darth vader


amanaman


chief chirpa x2



teebo x2



pilot atat x2



death star droid


c3po original


c3po remove limbs


dengar x2



nikto x2



atat commander x2



death star commander


2-1b medic droid


ree yees


logray


chewbacca


ackbar


imperial dignitary


boba fett


pilot tie fighter ( front and back)



snaggletooth red


general madine


atst driver


luke original


r2d2 pop up saber


obi wan kenobi x2



4-lom



and i have 3 other new coo of nikto and bossk and ree yees, i forget make the pictures
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PostSubject: Re: Undiscovered COO Variants   Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:54 pm

I didn't know this thread existed til your IG-88 post. That scar coo is pretty cool.  Here's an LL Teebo COO not in the guide:

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