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PostSubject: Bib Fortuna Staff Identification -- 2nd Opinion   Fri May 18, 2012 8:30 pm

Hi,

This is my first post here, so take it easy on me. My Star Wars collecting started in 1978. I have most of the original weapons and I hate REPRO and ReCarding!

I need a Bib Fortuna guru to provide a second check.

The same song and story follows below:

I bought some ROTJ figures on e-bay.

The Bib Fortuna staff I bought is more rigid than the original I had since 1983. The real staff has a nicer "fit and finish" and is more supple than the one I am questioning.

The original staff floats and the one I recently purchased sinks in water. (I heard this test is not the alpha and the omega.) Weight is similar.

I'm not a Bib Fortuna expert. I am glad to have a known original version and NOT repro. I think the Bib Fortuna staff I have is REPO *hit. If so confirmed, I will destroy it with no mercy. (I might even make a YouTube video.)

Photos below. Thanks for your help.





















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PostSubject: Re: Bib Fortuna Staff Identification -- 2nd Opinion   Fri May 18, 2012 10:17 pm

What color is that thing? In the side by side, it looks gold in color. If it is, repo all the way.

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PostSubject: Re: Bib Fortuna Staff Identification -- 2nd Opinion   Sat May 19, 2012 9:25 am

Have you tried scratching it to see if its painted? It might be case of a new REPRO out there? Im sure loose collectors can help more.

Here is the TIG Bib Staff Page (at the tope of the page) http://www.imperialgunnery.com/thestaffsaxessection.htm

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PostSubject: Re: Bib Fortuna Staff Identification -- 2nd Opinion   Sat May 19, 2012 11:14 am

welcome iceworm. You have joined a great site.

I have a number of loose Bib Fortuna variants in my collection & have seen dozens more. The staff you are asking about is not one that I have come across. Personally, based upon colour & general appearance I am sure it is a repro (unfortunately there are new repros cropping up all of the time). However, there are a lot of very knowledgable people here, so I would wait for some more opinions before destroying it. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Bib Fortuna Staff Identification -- 2nd Opinion   Sat May 19, 2012 1:46 pm

Thanks everyone for the help!!!

I checked the TIG reference material before posting.

I confirmed the Bib Fortuna staff I purchased was a FAKE.

The color of the fake staff is brown-grey; the inside material is similar to a Revell plastic model.

Last night I bent the fake staff too far and it snapped. (It was a gentle bend and NOT a strong bend.)

Scrapping the paint off would have also determined it was a fake.

I'm not happy with the fake, but I got some good insight into this REPRO crap.

I'm posting three follow up images that confirms a FAKE:










I contacted the seller. I don't want to see the fake glued or sold as two pieces.

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PostSubject: Re: Bib Fortuna Staff Identification -- 2nd Opinion   Sat May 19, 2012 2:23 pm

You have provided some great pictures comparing your repro to a genuine staff aswell as the cross section (+ given). This may be a new repro, so I think it would be worth posting all of your pics in the 'watch out' section in order to alert other members who may not see your thread here. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Bib Fortuna Staff Identification -- 2nd Opinion   Sat May 19, 2012 2:37 pm



Welcome aboard, Iceworm!!!

You did some great research, one more fake staff discovered and photographed for usage in TIG's weapon guide, once we update it!! cheers

Cheers


BTW: Pls take a minute to introduce yourself in the thread below, so we all get to know you a bit better.

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t3123p330-who-s-who-introduce-yourself-here
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PostSubject: Re: Bib Fortuna Staff Identification -- 2nd Opinion   Tue May 22, 2012 6:49 am

Personally I think you're fine as well. The sinking almost makes it okay right there.

I'd say thumbs up!

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