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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:53 am


Ricardo: I like the line-up of the three X-Wing Pilots!! Very Happy



The left one is often described as a PBP figure but from what I understood appeared on other European cards (e.g. Palitoy). Was it ever confirmed on a PBP cardback?

I always thought that only the pink and white face figures (middle and right) were exclusive to PBP.

Do you see any subtle differences in the moulds when comparing the left figure with the other two?
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:03 am


Stefan: Thank you for sharing pics of your C-3PO! cheers

It definitely looks very golden like the Spanish C-3POs discussed on page 10: http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t4427p135-the-poch-pbp-discussion-thread



Sofar this figure has not been confirmed as being POCH. It just seems to pop up in Spanish collections. From where did you get yours?

Apart from the very golden paint (or maybe the used varnish is more prone to yellowing ), the figures have these typical factory imperfecftions.

I am 90% sure this is indeed a POCH figure.


Final proof has to await pictures of MOCs.......(this would be a good moment for Ifantelo to chime in Very Happy ).

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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:06 am

My C-3PO is from a Spanish collection.

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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:38 am

Very illustrative thread guys, as allways a very interesting read, congrats.

What i have found so far in Spain.Two scar types.Two face details styles :Light reddish-brown and dark brown.5 slight hairs variants

I am guessing maybe one of those 5 examples is exclusive for the Spanish market





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Marco, your PBP Imperial commander have REPAINTED hair for sure.Sorry to say

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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sat Mar 09, 2013 6:44 am

@javiswspain wrote:

BTW:
Marco, your PBP Imperial commander have REPAINTED hair for sure.Sorry to say


You are right, Javi. Thanks for the heads up.

I had a close look and there is brown paint underneath the green. Evil or Very Mad

Tjeeesss..I have to check where it came from.
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:57 am


We have added a new TIG banner for POCH/PBP figures.

Kudos to Ozio for making this killer banner. :clap: :clap:

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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:22 am

That's a great banner! Very Happy Ozio deserves a round of applause. :clap: :clap: :clap:

I always enjoy the different banners!
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:48 am

That banner kicks ass. We need someone to make these into t-shirts.

I always wondered who made them, so excellent work Ozio :clap:

Can we or do we have a thread with all the old banners?

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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sun Mar 10, 2013 11:05 am

@walkie wrote:
That banner kicks ass. We need someone to make these into t-shirts.

I always wondered who made them, so excellent work Ozio :clap:

Can we or do we have a thread with all the old banners?

Wouter (Hyver) also made a few of the new ones.
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:09 pm

Everyone who made banners deserves thanks. cheers cheers cheers
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sun Mar 10, 2013 3:44 pm

@Dr Dengar wrote:

We have added a new TIG banner for POCH/PBP figures.

Kudos to Ozio for making this killer banner. :clap: :clap:



Somebody please make this into a tee-shirt Smile

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PostSubject: IG 88   Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:51 am

The one shown on the left is found in the US or possibley on Tri cards- anyways I have a few here.. but with orange not RED dots on the head.. which is the RARE Euro variant.
the one on the right is also found in the Us and very common actually
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Wed Mar 13, 2013 8:26 am

Hi Marco I found this pale faced Han on ebay, so not exclusive to PBP cards and also the sticker shows he was on sale in the states back in the day, after production stopped I'd imagine.
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Thu Mar 14, 2013 11:58 am

That is a good proof that shows us that han hoth pale face was not an exclusive figure sold only in Spain.

thanks Snaggletooth :-)

I know previously we already spoke about han solo poch. I just want to add some pics of the han solo poch "regular" legs.










in the last picture you have -from the left- 2 kenner one, 2 trilogo, poch brown legs and poch regular legs
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Thu Mar 14, 2013 3:19 pm



Love that POCH Han variant, Ricardo. cheers

I saw some pics of this variant last week, sent to me by another member.

I asked him to share his pics here as well. To me his figure looks very similar as yours.

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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:01 am

@ackbar100 wrote:
That is a good proof that shows us that han hoth pale face was not an exclusive figure sold only in Spain.

thanks Snaggletooth :-)


Hi Ricardo, I'm glad that you can apreciate that Han and just because he's on a Palitoy card doesn't take anything away from the fact that he's an awesome PBP figure in my opinion, not exclusive yes but still hard to find.

That is a great line up of IC's to Javi, which one would you Spanish guys day's the hardest to find in Spain, I've heard about those COo's coming out of the UK but in 2 years when I was collecting lots I didn't come across any.

@Neonboy wrote:
The one shown on the left is found in the US or possibley on Tri cards- anyways I have a few here.. but with orange not RED dots on the head.. which is the RARE Euro variant.
the one on the right is also found in the Us and very common actually
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Is this referring to Javis IC's?, Tri-logos could help explain these as there's a lot got shipped to the US after production Stopped.

A question for anyone who has any Ideas, was there any other made in Spain Kenner MOC's apart from the Cantina aliens?
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:45 am

Hi there

here you are a new poch figure. Princess Leia.

Poch figure on the left. Kenner figure on the right








you can see...
-different hair color
-different face details
-pale hands
-big melt marks on the back

see you with the next figure
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:04 pm



Fantastic contribution, Ricardo!

And what a POCH beauty she is! Very Happy

Looking forward to your next figure. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:57 pm

Back home, I quickly made some pics of a newly arrived Jawa from Spain.
The Spanish Jawa is on the right in all pics, Kenner on the left (remark that the figures have different COOs, I had no time to find matching ones).





















Compared to his Kenner brother, the Spanish Jawa has:
Paler yellow eyes which are small and not perfectly round.
REMARK Kenner figures have either big or small round eyes, see the comparison pic below (Kenner on the left and in the middle, Spanish Jawa on the right).





The Spanish Jawa shares similarities but is also different from the POCH Jawa described by Wolff.

http://swspaceclub.com/wbobafett/poch-variants/jawa/

Unique shaped eyes: CHECK
Darker painted bandolier: CHECK (though not that dark and glossy as in Wolff's guide)
Glossy black paint on hands: NO
COO: Different HK COO!!

Wolff notices that the mould of the bandolier in his POCH Jawa does not match wth the COO of the figure.
Quote: If you have a closer look you will notice that the mold of the strap is different too. This is a mold from another HK-family/series and got probably mixed up in the PBP factory.

The Spanish Jawa in this post has the same bandolier mold. The COO is a different HK COO however.
Maybe this COO fits to the bandolier mold? In that case, this Spanish Jawa would not be a mixed up figure.

Jawa experts like Orangpendek or Jason are needed here! Very Happy

And maybe Wolff likes to chime in as well. That would be great.

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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Mon Mar 25, 2013 4:21 pm

That is a very distinctive Jawa Marco. Does the cape have any distinguishing features unique to the Spanish release?
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:17 am


Good question, Steve.


I haven't checked the cape yet.. At first sight it looks like a regular rough texture cape. Need to compare it thoroughly with the other capes.

Do you see any differences?

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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:14 am

Sorry, I can not give extra info about the cape but here you are my jawa poch.












My figure is very similar to yours.

Next figure will a pbp one :-)
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:16 pm

@Dr Dengar wrote:

Good question, Steve.


I haven't checked the cape yet.. At first sight it looks like a regular rough texture cape. Need to compare it thoroughly with the other capes.

Do you see any differences?

Cheers

Looking at your photos, I don't see any obvious differences in the cape. As the figure appears to have unique features, I was just curious as to whether the cape had any e.g. stitching.
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:30 pm

@cantina_patron wrote:


Looking at your photos, I don't see any obvious differences in the cape. As the figure appears to have unique features, I was just curious as to whether the cape had any e.g. stitching.

Thanks, Steve.

It wouldn't be a big surprise to me when the cape and the gun turned out to be regular Kenner accessories imported from Asia.
Sofar only a few accessories seem to be unique for the early Spanish line (e.g. POCH Darth Vader cape, POCH Snowtrooper cape), whereas others are not (POCH Lando cape, POCH Tusken Raider cape).

But I haven't taken a close look at the cape sofar, so maybe there is some difference....

The main distinctive character of the Spanish Jawa seems to be the eyes. Small, pale yellow, and irregular shaped compared to the nice round eyes of Kenner figures.

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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Tue Mar 26, 2013 3:42 pm

Thanks Ricardo for posting pics of your Jawa. Very Happy

I don't know about you guys, but to me it seems there might be at least two types of Spanish Jawas.

The one described by Wolff and the one posted by me and Ricardo, which seems to be the same. A picture tells more than a thousand words:



I hope more collectors chime in and post pics of their Jawas as well. You can make the difference here.

It would also be interesting to know whether the bandolier molds (just called them type I and II here), correspond to their normal COOs (as in Kenner figures). If that is not the case, it means that parts from different molds were used to assembly the figure (like discribed earlier in this thread for the applegreen Spanish Yoda).
In other words does the Type I bandolier correspond to COO#4 in Kenner figures, and Type II to COO#7.

Jawa experts needed here! I hope they drive by.... Very Happy




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