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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sun Sep 30, 2012 1:34 am

I assume this is the General Mills/Palitoy version?
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:50 pm

Yes...that is definately the variant found on PAL/GM GM cards.
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:48 pm



Just curious what your thoughts are about that Spanish FX-7.


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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Tue Oct 23, 2012 1:26 pm

My sample is sonic unwelded....I have to check it as soon as I have unpacked my collection again, but I dont think there is anything different inside the little fellar what would make him sound different....funny but an accident I guess!

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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:13 pm



Yeah maybe, an error, a piece of wrongly moulded plastic on the inside, which causes this figure to click... scratch

An all new mould is very unlikely.

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PostSubject: POCH STAR DESTROYER COMMANDER   Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:37 am

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STAR DESTROYER COMMANDER




COO guide for Star Destoyer Commander


NOTES:
- COO #3 is shared by POCH and Kenner (POCH Era figure).


COO #3: POCH ERA

In the pictures below a POCH Star Destroyer Commander is compared to a Kenner figure sharing the same COO #3.

Star Destroyer Commander COO #3: Kenner (left), POCH (right).


Star Destroyer Commander COO #3: Kenner (left), POCH (right).


Star Destroyer Commander COO #3: Kenner (left), POCH (right).


Star Destroyer Commander COO #3: Kenner (left), POCH (right).


Star Destroyer Commander COO #3: Kenner (left), POCH (right).


Star Destroyer Commander COO #3: Kenner (left), POCH (right).



DIFFERENCES:
The differences between the two figures are subtle. Compared to his Kenner counterpart, the POCH Star Destroyer Commander has:
- a more pinkish face .
- thicker paint apps for the eyes and eye brows.
- an unique emblem composed of a paler blue and a more vibrant red bar.
- In addition - as mentioned on Wolff's site - the red bar of the POCH emblem was applied on top of the blue bar. In the Kenner figure this is the other way around.






Source: http://www.starwarsspanishstuff.info


ACCESSORIES

GUN

The POCH Star Destroyer Commander came with a black Imperial blaster.


REMARK

You can read more about the POCH Star Destroyer Commander on Wolff's great site: http://swspaceclub.com/wbobafett/poch/poch-variants/death-squad-commander/





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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:36 pm

overall same results as my research!!! That is great!!!

Seconds me and I love that!! What a Face
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Fri Nov 02, 2012 5:52 pm

Thanks Wolff.

The figure which you describe on your site and the figure here, look almost like twin brothers to me. Most striking to me was the sloppy paint job of the wrist button and the unique emblem.

Two independent researches with the same outcome, that gives me a good feeling we are indeed talking about POCH variants here.

My figure came from Spain too BTW.

Does your figure also has a mark on the helmet?
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PostSubject: POCH IMPERIAL COMMANDER   Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:34 pm

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IMPERIAL COMMANDER



COO guide for Imperial Commander


NOTES:
- COO #3 is shared by POCH and Kenner (POCH Era figure).


COO #3: POCH ERA

In the pictures below a POCH Imperial Commander is compared to a Kenner figure sharing the same COO #3.

Imperial Commander COO #3: Kenner (left), POCH (right).


Imperial Commander COO #3: Kenner (left), POCH (right).


Imperial Commander COO #3: Kenner (left), POCH (right).


Imperial Commander COO #3: Kenner (left), POCH (right).


Imperial Commander COO #3: Kenner (left), POCH (right).


Imperial Commander COO #3: Kenner (left), POCH (right).




DIFFERENCES:
The differences between the two figures are subtle. Compared to his Kenner counterpart, the POCH Imperial Commander has:
- a paler face.
- very thick paint apps for the eye brows.
- a bit longer hairline at the back.
- chest emblem: deep red instead of vibrant red bar / white instead of silver painted bar.
- wider spay masks used for the cap emblem and the buckle.






Source: http://www.starwarsspanishstuff.info



ACCESSORIES

GUN

The POCH Imperial Commander came with a blue Imperial blaster.




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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Fri Nov 09, 2012 10:03 am

New entry is in progress right now....... Cool





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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:15 am

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IMPERIAL STORMTROOPER HOTH BATTLE GEAR (SNOWTROOPER)



COO guide for Snowtrooper


NOTES:
- COO #1 is shared by POCH and Kenner (POCH Era figure).


COO #1: POCH ERA

In the pictures below a POCH Snowtrooper is compared to a Kenner figure sharing the same COO #1.

Snowtrooper COO #1: Kenner (left), POCH (right).


Snowtrooper COO #1: Kenner (left), POCH (right).


Snowtrooper COO #1: Kenner (left), POCH (right).


Snowtrooper COO #1: Kenner (left), POCH (right).


Snowtrooper COO #1: Kenner (left), POCH (right).


Snowtrooper COO #1: Kenner (left), POCH (right).


Snowtrooper COO #1: Kenner (left), POCH (right).


Snowtrooper COO #1: Kenner (left), POCH (right).


Snowtrooper COO #1: Kenner (left), POCH (right).


Snowtrooper COO #1: Kenner (left), POCH (right).





DIFFERENCES:
The differences between the two figures are subtle. Compared to his Kenner counterpart, the POCH Snowtrooper has thinner sprayed black areas which therefore appear more gray then black. Moreover the cape seems to be uique for this variant (see below).
I could not identify any other obvious differences.




ACCESSORIES

CAPE

The POCH Snowtrooper came with an unique vinyl cape which differs from a Kenner cape in the following ways:
- 'smooth' feeling as it is made from more flexible vinyl
- absence of the typical 'zipping' sound when you scrape your finger against any side of the cape.
- a few mm longer in length (all my Kenner figures have shorter capes)






GUN

The POCH Snowtrooper came with a blue Stormtrooper rifle.


Source: http://www.starwarsspanishstuff.info



Artwork by Ralph McQuarrie


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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Fri Nov 09, 2012 12:03 pm

So I need you guys to check on my Fett figure which I got recently from a UK seller.
I spotted small 'bubbles' on the plastic surface and also a small melt mark at the back of its left leg.
Could it be POCH Fett. Just want to know your thoughts regarding it.


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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sat Nov 10, 2012 5:35 am

Interesting, thanks for sharing here!

I might have a similar "Bubble" Fett. I made some comparison pics with a Kenner figure having the same COO #2.

"Bubble" Fett is on the right in the pics.

















Differences compared to the Kenner figure:

  • Lighter green paint on the chest armour
  • A bit brighter red wrist armour
  • Lighter brown belt
  • Left pouch unpainted, no paint residue to be seen (factory error?)
  • More vibrant red rocket, it can be moved out about 1 mm (probably an artefact because a kid tried to get it out)
  • Small deformation where the rocket tips starts (see close-up)
  • Big meltmarks at the back of the rocket holder. I wonder whether these are factory made. Maybe just some evil little girl who tried to iron her brother's poor Boba once. Cool
  • Little “bubbles” in the plastic (not paint!!) at the top of the right leg (at the back)
  • Did I miss anything?








I bought this figure from a Spanish seller.

Are there more examples of this Fett around in collections....

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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sat Nov 10, 2012 9:02 am

Nice, example of your "Bubble" Fett Marco. As for mine I discovered that the bubbles also spread downwards to the back of the right boot. For color, the shoulder and knee pads are in Yellow color. Will try to snap some comparison pics soon.
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sat Nov 10, 2012 11:54 am

sooooooooooooooo...the cape is made from the same material then the PBP/Trilogo capes?? (the ones with the round holes...not the slits)?????????????????
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:02 pm

@wbobafett wrote:
sooooooooooooooo...the cape is made from the same material then the PBP/Trilogo capes?? (the ones with the round holes...not the slits)?????????????????

I checked it for you. The Trilogo cape with the round holes feels more smooth compared to the presumed POCH cape and is also made from a more shiny vinyl.

I tried to summarize the three capes below:





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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:04 pm

@crealkilla wrote:
Nice, example of your "Bubble" Fett Marco. As for mine I discovered that the bubbles also spread downwards to the back of the right boot. For color, the shoulder and knee pads are in Yellow color. Will try to snap some comparison pics soon.

Looking forward to see your pics!!!
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sun Nov 11, 2012 6:10 am

Here's my comparison pics with a Kenner figure having the same small Hong Kong COO.
My "Bubble" Fett is on the right in the pics.

Differences compared to the Kenner figure:

- Lighter green paint on the chest armour
- Yellow paint for the shoulder armours, knee pads and left wrist armour
- Lighter red wrist armour
- Lighter brown belt and pouches
- Lighter red rocket and it's bit taller
- “Bubbles” in the plastic at the top of the right leg and downwards to the back of the right boot
- Tiny melt mark at back of its left leg.






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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:23 am

Thanks for sharing those pics!!!

The figure looks very similar as mine. Except for the yellow instead of orange shoulder armours, knee pads and left wrist armour. Maybe due to discolouration?

Off course both our "Bubble Fetts" could be affected by discolouration a bit, explaining the colour differences with the Kenner figures.

Or maybe these colour differences are unique for this figure, with its typical small bubbles?

The rocket on your figure indeed seems taller. Maybe it is welded in a way that it sticks out a bit more? Does it move a bit still? Are there any marks on the rocket?
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:42 am

@Dr Dengar wrote:
Thanks for sharing those pics!!!

The figure looks very similar as mine. Except for the yellow instead of orange shoulder armours, knee pads and left wrist armour. Maybe due to discolouration?

Off course both our "Bubble Fetts" could be affected by discolouration a bit, explaining the colour differences with the Kenner figures.

Or maybe these colour differences are unique for this figure, with its typical small bubbles?

The rocket on your figure indeed seems taller. Maybe it is welded in a way that it sticks out a bit more? Does it move a bit still? Are there any marks on the rocket?

For the Yellow color maybe its discolouration or maybe not. As what I observed for the Yellow color for the parts it spread nicely without any tinge of orange on it.

For the rocket, it welded and it can't be moved and there's no marks on it.
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Sun Nov 11, 2012 2:09 pm


Maybe there are more collectors having a "Bubble Fett" in their collection?

Please share.

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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Mon Nov 12, 2012 10:04 am

I do not own a "bubble Fett" : (
I searched all my versions last night....
Just wanted to reply so you didn't think I was ignoring your question Marco : )
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:11 am

Thank you, Steve! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Mon Nov 12, 2012 11:21 am

@Dr Dengar wrote:
@wbobafett wrote:
sooooooooooooooo...the cape is made from the same material then the PBP/Trilogo capes?? (the ones with the round holes...not the slits)?????????????????

I checked it for you. The Trilogo cape with the round holes feels more smooth compared to the presumed POCH cape and is also made from a more shiny vinyl.

I tried to summarize the three capes below:




Thank you Marco.....thought it could be a possibility Wink
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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   Mon Nov 12, 2012 3:46 pm

@wbobafett wrote:


Thank you Marco.....thought it could be a possibility Wink

It was a good possibility.

I am thinking now...do Kenner Snowtrooper capes differ in length? scratch

I checked about ten in my collection and they are all the same length.

Let the big checking begin. Very Happy
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