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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Fri Mar 14, 2014 3:18 am

Chopper wrote:
Should people be messaging the sellers or is not the done thing?

A friendly message pointing out the 'error' in the listing is acceptable.
When I've done it in the past, genuine sellers have either pulled the listing or modified the description so that potential bidders know it is repro.  Very Happy 
The scammers usually either ignore you or send a rude reply back.  Evil or Very Mad 

Either way, it can't hurt to try.
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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Fri Mar 14, 2014 1:34 pm

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Unfortunately, there have been a couple of my reputable (or former) contacts that have been selling these as original as well.  Bottom line, like Ozio said, it's about how they make their money and from whome.  

That being said, have you also seen such an influx in faked bergundy Squidhead capes Ozio?  I know they have been made but I wasn't sure if those fakes are as common as the fake Bib's.  


Exactly, some sellers are just looking the other way while selling these fakes.

There are some fakes for the burgundy Squid too, fortunately this one was made by LL on large numbers and it's not as hard to find as a real Burgundy Bib, still be careful guys.

About telling to the seller, sure give it a shot.
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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Sun Mar 16, 2014 7:49 pm


BE CAREFUL!!!!

Now I can tell there are tons and tons of fakes out there!!!! .....
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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:23 pm

merlin wrote:

BE CAREFUL!!!!

Now I can tell there are tons and tons of fakes out there!!!! .....


Hi my friend, can you share some pics?
Thanks!

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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Sun Mar 16, 2014 8:58 pm

OZIO wrote:
merlin wrote:

BE CAREFUL!!!!

Now I can tell there are tons and tons of fakes out there!!!! .....


Hi my friend, can you share some pics?
Thanks!

Ozio

what´s up Ozio?...... of course !!... of fakes ?
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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Sun Mar 16, 2014 9:44 pm

merlin wrote:
OZIO wrote:
merlin wrote:

BE CAREFUL!!!!

Now I can tell there are tons and tons of fakes out there!!!! .....


Hi my friend, can you share some pics?
Thanks!

Ozio

what´s up Ozio?...... of course !!... of fakes ?

Hi buddy, Yes.
Do you have pics of burgundy Bib capes?


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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Fri Mar 21, 2014 3:21 am

I'm only new here, but I'd also like to throw in my thanks, Ozio! I'm also looking to round out my loose collection with a bonafide LL burgundy Bib, hopefully this year, and this site is about all I can trust to make that happen, thanks to guys like you.  Smile 
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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Mon Mar 24, 2014 12:44 am

Here we have some good and bad fakes..........


After looking for hours to my LL MOC BIB red cape , I´ve finally unveil where to look when comparing fakes... OZIO also has a great way to spot them... I will agree with him that finding a real LL Bib Fortuna red Cape is like finding a LL RRBF!! ....

I can upload more pics..... but I think many people will be very disappointed with what they have in their hands assuming they own the real thing!
FAKE!!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Fri Apr 04, 2014 3:33 pm

Thanks for you help Adolfo!  cheers   cheers  cheers 

I have a small test that can help us out a bit, try to find the fake ones, give it a try.

There are 3 fake Burgundy capes here, can you spot them?


Please post your answer before getting the right one, Dont' cheat!  Wink 




--------->All capes are fake<------Select here to see the answer
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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:37 pm

Far left and the two far right ones? So #1, #5 & #6?
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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Fri Apr 04, 2014 4:59 pm

3,4 and 5 all look off colour wise. 1 or 2 look the best however looking at the answer I'm shocked!!

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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:00 pm

I'd say #4 is definitely fake, and I suspect #3 & #5 are also fake. Having said that, I've yet to see one in hand, so what do I know?  lol! 
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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Fri Apr 04, 2014 5:02 pm

I see Stef just beat me to it, & I'm somewhat surprised as well!
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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Fri Apr 04, 2014 6:31 pm

I have to admit, that I really wouldn't have a clue, as I have never seen one in person. The first thing that I thought when I read the question was 'wow three originals in one line up' scary really, I didn't expect that.

You're a credit to the community Ozio, I think I speak on behalf of everyone here when I say that.
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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:03 pm

I have only one Burgundy Bib in my collection (below), and I bought it from the most reliable source. Very Happy

I am very happy we can rely on Ozio's expert knowledge to prevent us from fake capes.




Looking at Ozio's picture with fakes and genuine capes, the devil is in the detail when it comes to Burgundy capes.
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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:07 pm

I agree Marco, 'the devil is in the detail'. Personally Ozio is the only person I would want to buy one from!  Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:14 pm

Dr Dengar wrote:


Looking at Ozio's picture with fakes and genuine capes, the devil is in the detail when it comes to Burgundy capes.


Ok I wrote that before doing the test, I thought only #1, #3 and #4 (from l to r) were fake..... Shocked

The devil is in the detail even more than I thought.  Evil or Very Mad 
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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:36 pm

I'll play.  It looks like #2, #4 & #5? But I can't see the answer????
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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:40 pm

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I'll play.  It looks like #2, #4 & #5?  But I can't see the answer????

Hey Clint, you will have to select the text with your mouse, so the answer will be revealed.
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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Wed Apr 09, 2014 4:44 pm

Thanks Marco. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:20 am

I also failed that test. Big thanks to Ozio and others who continue to watch out and help educate collectors. Ozio, I made a link to this thread on the 1st page of imperialgunnery.com

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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Fri Apr 18, 2014 9:02 pm

THanks Ozio for this thread !All that fakes really scary me  doh 
BTW, i am now a bit concenered about my burgundy cape , please take a look to you email, i have sent you loads of picts of my LL coats.i will love to know your oppinion my friend Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Tue Apr 22, 2014 12:44 pm

javiswspain wrote:
THanks Ozio  for this thread !All that fakes really scary me  doh 
BTW, i am now a bit concenered about my burgundy cape , please take a look to you email, i have sent you loads of picts of my LL coats.i will love to know your oppinion my friend Wink
Thanks in advance!
Javi


Hi Javi, Sure thing.
I'll take a good look at those pics.

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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Wed Apr 23, 2014 4:53 pm

Two more:



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PostSubject: Re: Fake Burgundy Cape Bib Fortuna, They are everywhere!   Wed Apr 23, 2014 5:56 pm

Ozio, are you sure that the first one is fake? I know the dealer and have bought many items from him before. He is a solid guy so if it is a fake then he was duped and doesn't know. He is also a member here. His name is Harold, but I think his seller id and TIG id are close to the same.

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