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PostSubject: Baggie Reference Thread.   Fri Oct 11, 2013 8:22 pm

Mods, please add this to the sticky list in the Reference section. If a similar thread already exists, please add this to the list.

This thread is for reference purposes and to list each "known" Baggie that exists for each Character.

Character: Jawa

Known Kenner Baggies

Baggies:

Domestic:
***SW-A (Heat Sealed/Soft) White Vertical “MIHK”
SW-B (Heat Sealed/Soft) Black Vertical “MIHK”
SW-D (Heat Sealed/Soft) Black Horizontal “MIHK”
ESB-C (Tape Sealed/Crisp) Blue Kenner with “MIHK”
ESB-D (Heat Sealed/Smooth) Blue Kenner with “MIHK”
ROTJ-J (Heat Sealed/Soft) Black Vertical with “MIHK”
** The Made In Hong Kong is typed differently than the SW-B**

Foreign:
Kenner (Euro G) (Tape Sealed/Soft) Blue/Blue-Green Kenner horizontal rectangle
Palitoy (A) (Tape Sealed/Crisp) Blue Horizontal “MIHK” (Exclusive to Palitoy Land of the Jawas playset)
Palitoy (I) (Tape Sealed/Smooth) Blue Horizontal “MIHK” (Exclusive to Palitoy Land of the Jawas playset)
Palitoy (K) with Made in Hong Kong (vertical text).
** Baggie similar to a SW-B, but thicker and different font**
European/Meccano (Heat Sealed/Soft) No Country of Origin on baggie.


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PostSubject: Re: Baggie Reference Thread.   Tue Oct 15, 2013 4:00 pm

Thank you for your input Jason, it's greatly appreciated. TIG is planning to develop a new reference thread and with your permission, we would like to include your Jawas! Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: Baggie Reference Thread.   Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:52 pm

Permission granted. If individual pictures are needed, let me know.. Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: Baggie Reference Thread.   Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:42 pm

Nice Jawa baggie run you have there Jason, any chance of some close ups of the Palitoy no text & the Parker one please, not sure if the Parker one is correct TBH, but the no text one could be a Euro baggie rather than a Palitoy, would need to see close ups of the seals at both ends to confirm that though.

There is also a SW-a & an ESB-d Jawa baggie BTW, nice page & write up Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Baggie Reference Thread.   Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:15 pm

Great idea Jason, here's a few for Bespin Luke,
 
Character: Luke Skywalker - Bespin Fatigues
 
Known Kenner Baggies
 
ESB-A: Blue Horizontal Kenner Box Made In Hong Kong text below
 
ESB-C: Blue Horizontal Make in Hong Kong and Kenner Text (tape sealed)
 
ESB-G: Blue Vertical Kenner Box Made in China text below
 
ESB-H: Bank heat sealed bag
 
 
Known Foreign Baggies:
 
Made In China: Similar to ROTJ-G but not U.S.
 
MIHK: Single line blue text vertical
 
MIHK: Single line blue text horizontal
 
Hope this helps chief Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Baggie Reference Thread.   Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:21 pm

@frunkstar wrote:
Nice Jawa baggie run you have there Jason, any chance of some close ups of the Palitoy no text & the Parker one please, not sure if the Parker one is correct TBH, but the no text one could be a Euro baggie rather than a Palitoy, would need to see close ups of the seals at both ends to confirm that though.

There is also a SW-a & an ESB-d Jawa baggie BTW, nice page & write up Wink
Here is a close-up of the Palitoy no COO

Palitoy No COO

Kenner Parker (tape sealed on back)

Kenner Parker

I would love to see pictures of a sw-a and esb-d jawa baggie. Several baggie experts have told me that a legitimate sw-a jawa baggie does not exist and have some been faked over the years. Each esb related jawa baggie I have ever seen has been tape vice sealed. Very interesting indeed.
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PostSubject: Re: Baggie Reference Thread.   Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:26 pm

Thanks for those, I would hedge my bets that the Palitoy one is in fact a Euro baggie - Meccano rather than a palitoy one Jason, is it very soft feel & very thin material?, I could really do with seeing the seals, nice baggie.

I feel the other one you have (parker) may not be a legit baggie though if I am honest, I do hope you don't mind me saying so, I have seen literally thousands of baggies over the years & have never come across this baggie style with a SW figure in & to date the below is the only known Parker baggie example & specific (to date) to just this one figure -



Here is the ESB-d, I have seen a few examples of it now, but a lot rarer than the ESB-c counterpart you have, the seals are correct for a ESB-d also.



There is also a second Palitoy baggie, one in a crisp tape sealed baggie & another in a soft tape selaed baggie thats almost folded over double (photos below)



Palitoy-a



Palitoy-i - Text is obscured from view but has the same text as the one above.

Yours is the crisp type right?

I do not as yet own a SW-a example, but I know of one that just sold in a Palitoy land of the jawas with sealed contense & has been sent in for grading, its history is 100% & came direct from Palitoy via Jim Stephenson so its 100% legit, there are a couple of examples locked up in collections in the states & I have one available to me, sadly its not a sealed one, but is from a genuine childhood collection.

HTH's you Jason
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PostSubject: Re: Baggie Reference Thread.   Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:51 am

Thank you for the information and I truly love seeing Jawa Baggies I did not know existed before now.. A few thoughts though.

1. The ESB-D is awesome and the seals look correct, agreed. I will be making note of this for my ongoing list of Jawa baggies.

2. Yes, the Palitoy Jawa I have is crisp vice smooth. Interesting that there is a variation for this baggie style and it would smoother in texture. Again, making note of this one as well.

3. I will change my description for the "now" Euro/Meccano baggie. Yes, the material is very smooth and much thinner than the other baggies. How many are you aware of? Yours is the second I have ever seen. Where did they come from?

4. Concerning the one I described as a Kenner Parker baggie. I think you might be confusing this with the BillyBoy specials that came in Super Power types of baggies with Kenner and Made in Hong Kong vice the Kenner Logo that mine has. Unfortunately, I got burned on this as well. I opened the baggie a few years ago and the figure exhibited playwear and the tape showed no sign of yellowing,etc.

I have seen at least three other Jawa baggies exactly the same with the Kenner logo and tape sealed across the back sell over the years. One landed on Ebay about eight months ago, I think. A few UK Collectors described this baggie style as Kenner Parker that might have been available in a mail away. Looking at the Dengar example, you posted, I will agree that Kenner Parker is no longer accurate, but I strongly feel the baggie is legitimate and respect your honesty. For now, I will change my description to "Kenner Baggie".

5. Lastly the SW-A. I remember the Palitoy Land of the Jawas with sealed contents landing on Ebay a few months ago. The ending price shocked me, but the contents were sealed. Why would a SW-A come with this playset, as it makes no sense. Most of the SW-A's represented the earliest characters of the first twelve and the Jawa had been one of the last to be released. Very interesting indeed. I would love to see pictures when available.

Of course, if you have an extra ESB-D or Palitoy (smooth tape style) for sale or trade, I would be 100% interested. Thank you for the information and I will post updates to my original post.

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PostSubject: Re: Baggie Reference Thread.   Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:24 pm

Just been given a nudge by a friend of mine & have just looked back over my baggies & the rough baggie variations guide I did see here -

http://www.starwarsforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=13555

& would say its actually a Euro-e/A or B rather than the Euro-b I had suspected it was, sorry for any confusion.

Must say it would be great to proove the authenticity of the other Kenner blue box one you have there, I had not taken it as a super powers or billy boy re hash BTW Jason.

1. the ESB-d is worth hunting down
2. yes there are 2 know with that text type, one I feel a palitoy intended for carding, the other available in the LOTJ play sets
3. See above should be either a Euro-e/A or e/B
4. as for the SW-a appearing in the Palitoy LOTJ I can only assume that at some point Palitoy ran out of stock & sent spare over to palitoy to use, this sort of thing has been quite common place & IMH one of the most likely scenarios, I know of one other LOTJ with one & Del a member on here who also used to be huge in to baggies has confirmed he has seen a couple in the states locked up in black hole collections, so its a 100% conformation re the SW-a jawa.

Sadly I only have the one of each of the palitoy & ESB-d jawas or I would be happy to do some trades, I will keep my ear to the ground & if either crop up I will shoot you a pm Jason.

Great work you have done with trying to identify the jawa baggies & I do hope you take this as intended, as helpful insight rather than a knock as I am just trying my best to help bud.
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PostSubject: Re: Baggie Reference Thread.   Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:12 pm

@frunkstar wrote:
Just been given a nudge by a friend of mine & have just looked back over my baggies & the rough baggie variations guide I did see here -

http://www.starwarsforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=13555

& would say its actually a Euro-e/A or B rather than the Euro-b I had suspected it was, sorry for any confusion.

Must say it would be great to proove the authenticity of the other Kenner blue box one you have there, I had not taken it as a super powers or billy boy re hash BTW Jason.

1. the ESB-d is worth hunting down
2. yes there are 2 know with that text type, one I feel a palitoy intended for carding, the other available in the LOTJ play sets
3. See above should be either a Euro-e/A or e/B
4. as for the SW-a appearing in the Palitoy LOTJ I can only assume that at some point Palitoy ran out of stock & sent spare over to palitoy to use, this sort of thing has been quite common place & IMH one of the most likely scenarios, I know of one other LOTJ with one & Del a member on here who also used to be huge in to baggies has confirmed he has seen a couple in the states locked up in black hole collections, so its a 100% conformation re the SW-a jawa.

Sadly I only have the one of each of the palitoy & ESB-d jawas or I would be happy to do some trades, I will keep my ear to the ground & if either crop up I will shoot you a pm Jason.

Great work you have done with trying to identify the jawa baggies & I do hope you take this as intended, as helpful insight rather than a knock as I am just trying my best to help bud.  
First, thank you for the insight and information. No offense taken at all. We all post here for information and to forge friendships with one another. Cheers for that.

I will try to hunt some more information on the mystery Kenner baggie. Hopefully, something turns up. I will also be on the hunt for a esb-d and the variant palitoy jawa baggie and be very patient for a sw-a jawa to come up for sale.
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PostSubject: Re: Baggie Reference Thread.   Sun Dec 08, 2013 11:25 am

What are the opinions on this Macau baggie?

I bought it cheap for the no coo ERG. I have no reason to doubt the seller (I bought it in person). Unfortunately the tape has dried out (hence getting it cheap), but the baggie is a good fit for the figure, and the tape residue / dirt would indicate that it had been tape sealed for a long time. I should still have the piece of tape somewhere. unsure 





Sorry for the quality of this picture of the tape residue, but it's starting to get dark (I'll take a better one!)
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PostSubject: Re: Baggie Reference Thread.   Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:10 pm

Updates to the Jawa baggie section. I am working on an updated photo.
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PostSubject: Re: Baggie Reference Thread.   Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:47 am

More of a lurker these days, due to me spending a lot of time on Facebook for my "awesome" Jawa group.

A few updates for the Jawa baggie thread, to include a sealed Woolies 8 pack with sealed baggies inside and yes, a Jawa is in the mix.

Baggies:

Domestic:
SW-A (Heat Sealed/Soft) White Horizontal “MIHK”
** Found in the Palitoy Land of the Jawas set.
SW-B (Heat Sealed/Soft) Black Vertical “MIHK”
SW-D (Heat Sealed/Soft) Black Horizontal “MIHK”
ESB-C (Tape Sealed/Crisp) Blue Kenner with “MIHK”
ESB-D (Heat Sealed/Smooth) Blue Kenner with “MIHK”
ESB-H (Heat Sealed/Soft) No Text
ROTJ-J (Heat Sealed/Soft) Black Vertical with “MIHK”
** The Made In Hong Kong is typed differently than the SW-B**

Foreign:
Kenner (Euro G) (Heat Sealed/Soft) Blue/Blue-Green Kenner horizontal rectangle
Palitoy (A) (Tape Sealed/Crisp) Blue Horizontal “MIHK” (Exclusive to Palitoy Land of the Jawas playset)
Palitoy (I) (Tape Sealed/Smooth) Blue Horizontal “MIHK” (Exclusive to Palitoy Land of the Jawas playset)
Palitoy (K) (Heat Sealed/Soft) BlackVertical Made in Hong Kong text.
** Baggie similar to a SW-B, but thicker and different font**
Palitoy (M) (Heat Sealed/Soft) Blue Vertical “MIHK” text.
European/Meccano (Heat Sealed/Soft) No Country of Origin on baggie.

Woolsworth 8 Packs:

The Jawa is either loose or is in a sealed baggie.
** The “known” sealed baggie is a Palitoy I (tape sealed/smooth)
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