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PostSubject: POTF Barada 84 & 85?    POTF Barada 84 & 85?  I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 08, 2016 10:27 pm

Ok so I have been seeing this a lot 1984 & 1985 I think one is more desirable than the other.

What's the difference?

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PostSubject: Re: POTF Barada 84 & 85?    POTF Barada 84 & 85?  I_icon_minitimeFri Jan 08, 2016 10:37 pm

85 is harder to find for sure, theres really no difference besides year , quite boring imo Sleep
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PostSubject: Re: POTF Barada 84 & 85?    POTF Barada 84 & 85?  I_icon_minitimeSat Jan 09, 2016 12:35 am

Just the coo stamp. You can see it in this thread: http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1075643-3/

There are other variants in this thread also.

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PostSubject: Re: POTF Barada 84 & 85?    POTF Barada 84 & 85?  I_icon_minitimeSat Jan 09, 2016 9:55 am

Thanks for the link Bryan alien
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PostSubject: Re: POTF Barada 84 & 85?    POTF Barada 84 & 85?  I_icon_minitimeSat Jan 09, 2016 10:11 am

Interesting here it says 84 is rarer than 85? :scratch:

And is it just me or is 85 Barada glossier than 84 :

POTF Barada 84 & 85?  3DA7C0AB-A2DB-4BC4-A4F3-82756B740B5A_zps11oib93l

POTF Barada 84 & 85?  7335FFAD-8E57-41A1-A7DF-356047A537FF_zpsabtzqg3d

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POTF Barada 84 & 85?  4462C0D5-44C1-409E-A7BB-C2346B43DB4C_zpspo9cosqy

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PostSubject: Re: POTF Barada 84 & 85?    POTF Barada 84 & 85?  I_icon_minitimeSat Jan 09, 2016 11:04 am

I think the glossiness or any color different can come down to small batch variations or degradation, not intentional choice.

The stamp really only affected one number which was the end number. I think on some 85 coos you can still see remnants of the 4 also. Likely the year was an error as no other potf figures have an 84 stamp. (None that I can recall anyway).

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PostSubject: Re: POTF Barada 84 & 85?    POTF Barada 84 & 85?  I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2016 1:51 am

The Barada 1984 version is definitely rarer. I am still trying to score one for years now. Very Happy
Probably it came with (some of) the Sears Jabba Dungeon playsets.

@Bryan. Luke Stormtrooper has a 1984 COO. That was something which surprised me a while ago cause I also assumed that -except for Barada - all POFF figures came with 1985 datestamps (or no datestamps).

See the two links below:


http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/Vintage-Star-Wars-COO-Guide-h14.htm#Luke%20Skywalker%20-%20Stormtrooper%20Disguise%20%28Last%2017%29

http://www.tantivexi.com/t1195-ptcoo-luke-skywalker-imperial-stormtrooper-outfit

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PostSubject: Re: POTF Barada 84 & 85?    POTF Barada 84 & 85?  I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2016 3:58 am

POTF figures have a mix of COO dates, other examples of the '84 stamp are Han Carbonite, the Imperial Dignitary and the A-Wing Pilot.

Having studied my examples of the '84 and '85 apart from the COO marking which itself looks like a mistake which was the corrected during production there doesn't seem to be any other differences.

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PostSubject: Re: POTF Barada 84 & 85?    POTF Barada 84 & 85?  I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2016 4:54 am

@walkie wrote:
Ohther examples of the '84 stamp are Han Carbonite, the Imperial Dignitary and the A-Wing Fighter.

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I hadn't realized that till today.
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PostSubject: Re: POTF Barada 84 & 85?    POTF Barada 84 & 85?  I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2016 6:15 am

Maybe Barada was made alongside the other 84 POTF figures originally but for some reason Smile had to put him off for a few Months
http://theswca.com/index.php?action=disp_item&item_id=48492
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PostSubject: Re: POTF Barada 84 & 85?    POTF Barada 84 & 85?  I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2016 7:02 am

More then likely down to human error as due to the low numbers of '84 Barada's and the one's which have surfaced indicate only one of the 3 tools were alternated (Most POTF figures have 3 tools btw).

Maybe originally planned for a '84 release as the instructions for the dungeon also state '84?

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One thing is for certain it's a RARE variant!

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PostSubject: Re: POTF Barada 84 & 85?    POTF Barada 84 & 85?  I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2016 10:29 am

@hellhippie wrote:
85 is harder to find for sure, theres really no difference besides year , quite boring imo Sleep
hahah sry I meant to say it the other way around . doh
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PostSubject: Re: POTF Barada 84 & 85?    POTF Barada 84 & 85?  I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2016 11:39 am

@walkie wrote:
POTF figures have a mix of COO dates, other examples of the '84 stamp are Han Carbonite, the Imperial Dignitary and the A-Wing Pilot.

Having studied my examples of the '84 and '85 apart from the COO marking which itself looks like a mistake which was the corrected during production there doesn't seem to be any other differences.

Do all of these have both 84 and 85 variants? I never noticed (nor really looked) since the potf figures are so expensive for the most part, I just got one and put it in the cabinet.

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PostSubject: Re: POTF Barada 84 & 85?    POTF Barada 84 & 85?  I_icon_minitimeSun Jan 10, 2016 3:18 pm

Just Barada Bryan.

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PostSubject: Re: POTF Barada 84 & 85?    POTF Barada 84 & 85?  I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 11, 2016 12:34 pm

Imperial Gunner is also 84 ;-)
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PostSubject: Re: POTF Barada 84 & 85?    POTF Barada 84 & 85?  I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 12, 2016 5:34 am

@walkie wrote:
More then likely down to human error as due to the low numbers of '84 Barada's and the one's which have surfaced indicate only one of the 3 tools were alternated (Most POTF figures have 3 tools btw).

Maybe originally planned for a '84 release as the instructions for the dungeon also state '84?

POTF Barada 84 & 85?  RokiMZA

One thing is for certain it's a RARE variant!

You could be right Stef but I'm having my guess at these 84 stamps being inside the Sample Baggie, which would also explain the rarity.

It's great to see the 84 appears on the instructions to which points towards an 84 release if you ask me, is that the same sheet with an 83 date?

Greedos has 3 tools as well but only one family and Barada's also one of Smiles figures and another interesting thing about him is that he only has one Baggie type and In his case they are all made by Smile/HK factory and bagged up in there Kenner ESB-c baggies. He's also found on POTF and Tri-Logo cards but there all(Baggies) made around the same time as the rest of the ESB-c baggies made by Smile. Which is earlier than you'd think for a POTF figure and normally when Smile made a batch of figures for Kenner they also made a batch, or bagged up the same variants in MIHK(no Kenner labels) baggies for Palitoy, but with Barada they didn't do this which to me suggests that they may have overdone the guess work with him and the first time they made a batch of figures and bagged them up for Kenner they'd actually made enough to cover there whole international demand for the rest of the line.

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PostSubject: Re: POTF Barada 84 & 85?    POTF Barada 84 & 85?  I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 12, 2016 9:22 am

I should also point out that I don't believe all the figures have 3 mould tools either and I know there's some with 3, 4 and even more for some ESB and ROTJ characters. I was thinking that some of these must be down to wear though and the result of the factory re-tooling the mould tool for some characters after the tool became damaged or the Info became unreadable on the back of the legs and maybe that's what happened and they all started with one tool. This can't be the case with them all though as there's at least a couple of no coo date stamps that match up with HK counterparts which suggest they are separate tools to me, edited by Smile from ESB-c baggies to produce No COO figures. I know Smile was the sole factory responsible for some characters from start to finish and I'm guessing that was also the case for some of Kaders and Unitoy figures.
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PostSubject: Re: POTF Barada 84 & 85?    POTF Barada 84 & 85?  I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 12, 2016 2:31 pm

Wow, thanks for that info Snags cheers very interesting.
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PostSubject: Re: POTF Barada 84 & 85?    POTF Barada 84 & 85?  I_icon_minitimeTue Jan 12, 2016 3:58 pm

@snaggletooth wrote:

It's great to see the 84 appears on the instructions to which points towards an 84 release if you ask me, is that the same sheet with an 83 date?

the '83 is jabba dungeon with the ROTJ figures, where as the '84 release was packaged with 3 POTF figs

There are also several ROTJ figs with a '84 stamp, for example Han Trench Coat & The Rancor Keeper, who knows what Kenner planned. Maybe they held some figs back for the POTF range which were original penned for the ROTJ series??

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