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PostSubject: Help Identifying this Green Limb Bossk   Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:20 pm

Hi All,I need some help identifying this green limbed Bossk that I found in a large lot of figures I acquired recently.
It looks like a Poch/PCB variant but the COO doesn't appear to match any of the known examples. As you can see from the comparison shots with other aged/degraded ones I have that the green does not seem to be the result of the arm degradation as it is very green. It looks like all the red from lips and the neck (other than a small pinkish staining remaining). If you want any other shots let me know.
I've searched the web in vain trying to find a similar example. Any info would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.








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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying this Green Limb Bossk   Mon Apr 04, 2016 7:59 pm

Hi parra72, im not very good with pochs but I have this link it might help?
http://swspaceclub.com/wbobafett/poch/poch-variants/bossk/

Nice bossks by the way!! Stormie Smiley
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying this Green Limb Bossk   Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:05 pm

Thanks for the reply. I had checked that page and the color matches for the limbs but the COO on mine are different to the known PCB/Poch ones.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying this Green Limb Bossk   Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:17 pm

@parra72 wrote:
Thanks for the reply. I had checked that page and the color matches for the limbs but the COO on mine are different to the known PCB/Poch ones.

I did think that also, I dont know if the poche is exclusive to that coo stamp shown in the link? I think wolff describes it like it is the only known one? One of the team will probably clarify soon...until then check out some of the other threads , some answers are found by accident I find Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying this Green Limb Bossk   Mon Apr 04, 2016 8:44 pm

Let's just hope that mine is an ultra rare one of a kind then!? Very Happy
Thanks again.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying this Green Limb Bossk   Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:21 pm

its not , bryan already explained the differences on txi . its just severe degradation. a poch green limbs bossk has many traits which are known to collectors . some of the differences have already been pointed out to you yet you insist its a legit toxic green limbs
bossk . from far away it fooled me as well . im not saying you made it or anything im just saying your looking for something out of it that its not . It is not some rare off shoot of an ultra rare figure with a previously unknown country of origin . it is just degradation albeit cool looking its nothing more than that , sorry
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying this Green Limb Bossk   Mon Apr 04, 2016 9:58 pm

I don't think it's a Poch/PCB either due to the COO difference with known ones. I just want to know if anyone might know what it is because I just think the green is to vibrant too be a degraded brown. If it is though I'd just like to see a photo of a degraded figure with this shade of green limbs or at least close to it. Surely if it is a common occurrence then there are lots of examples?
Thanks for your help everyone.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying this Green Limb Bossk   Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:11 pm

Go to eBay and type in vintage bossk and it will bring up close to 400 figures.  I found this one four figures down.




The green looks like a match.  Also note the extreme discolored limbs.  I am sure there are others and if you search ended stuff probably even more.  I am not saying it can't be a poch.  Just never saw one with a different coo.  I have seen lots of discolored figures though that have the green tint to the arms.  i am curious what the poch guys will say.  This is one of the main reasons I can't wait for javi's book.  I don't know enough about this figure line to say one way or the other definitively but this figure just doesn't seem right to me.  It has the wrong coo, it has a different spray mask from confirmed carded examples, it wasn't found in a Spanish collection it just doesn't add up.  Anyone who may have aquired this figure for the limb color would have sold it with that information when they sold it on, instead you got it in a lot of figures right?  It wasn't pointed out as anything special right?  We are talking about a figure that may have 10-20 confirmed examples in collections (likely less) and was Spain specific.  If I aquired a Spanish collection I know I would at least mention this was found in a Spanish collection if I sold the pieces on.  I have a box of Ledy beaters and the two times I have sent pieces out of the box on, I said this came from a Mexican collection and is Ledy, not here is just a random extra.  I sent these pieces for free also so to say attaching a Ledy name gets a premium is not even part of this equation.  These are just my thoughts on this though.  Again, I hope Javi or Marco or one of the other heavy poch guys chimes in.  Bill already said he doesn't think it is and right now he is one of the guys seeking these out and has probably studied this line further than most of us on this board.

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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying this Green Limb Bossk   Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:22 pm

Oh, and it might be worth noting that the auction which kicked off so much interest in having this variant has some oddity to it. Some people trust the seller implicitly others don't. All I know is I look at the bidder history in that auction and see a low feedback bidder (35) who has 146 total bids on 43 total different items and all bids and items belong to the same seller. Not saying it can't happen, just odd looking to an outsider.

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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying this Green Limb Bossk   Mon Apr 04, 2016 11:45 pm

Thanks again Bryan. That's a new listing which wasn't there when I did a similar search yesterday. I couldn't find any that had the green limbs but that one does look very close. I appreciate your help.
I only posted here as well as while I don't think it is a Poch, I thought someone might know if it was another variant of some sort. The green is the exact same color on both arms and legs.
Cheers, I do appreciate you taking the time to give me your thoughts.


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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying this Green Limb Bossk   Tue Apr 05, 2016 5:17 am

Hi Parra72, I did this when i first joined thought i had the rarest piece on earth lol soon realised it wasnt!Im glad the other guys jumped in, i have had time to look at the pics properly and i can see that the paint is just at the end degradation, it is just visible on top of his left foot and just inside his right arm this is only in certain lights but clearly shows the paint was once brown in the reflections. As for the variant it is just normal im afraid, it is a V1 in the old wolff guide (added pic below) if you can see the color of the limbs is exactly like yours pale and distressed. I did notice the collar has no red paint left or is a factory error which helps it look ultra rare! I have scoured the net for unpainted collars and i have also checked PBPs,LL and kenners etc and there are no variants without painted collars, i can only find a couple with unpainted factory errors and they were kenners. I hope this helps and im no pro like these guys but either way he is still a cool figure and def a keeper Stormie Smiley Stormie Smiley

If you have any other questions just post them everybody is as friendly and as helpful as possible, dont forget to check out other threads so much info here!! cheers

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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying this Green Limb Bossk   Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:39 am

It has no red on the mouth or eyes either, maybe the factory ran out of red paint the day it was made Laughing

I can see why someone might consider this to be painted green as the colour is so even that it makes it hard to believe it's degradation. We do, however, see it very often in other figures such as the "green" armour Dengar.

http://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t3379p250-everything-you-always-wanted-to-know-about-discolored-figures-but-were-afraid-to-ask

A nice addition to the collection anyway especially if the lack of red is an error.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying this Green Limb Bossk   Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:08 am

Thank you all for your kind replies and assistance.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying this Green Limb Bossk   Thu Apr 07, 2016 8:19 am

Man those limbs look identical in colour to the POCH Bossk with bright green limbs. If you're saying is discolouration then perhaps that's something that should potentially be considered for all bright green limb POCH Bossks. Perhaps the paint used on them is just more vulnerable to discolouration. I've kind of lost touch with PBP/POCH stuff but I understand there are lots of oddities out there and things mixed up - so can we really say definitively that it's not a POCH figure? I don't know - just putting it out there.

The biggest concern for me on the figure posted in this thread is the paint missing. It looks potentially like it has been paint stripped and re-painted or possibly bleached. Something odd seems to have happened here.

I noticed that POCH Bossk on eBay the other day. Absolutely insane that people are prepared to pay £1,200 (and thats still with 4 days to go) on a production figure regardless of how rare it is. Especially when you consider that the bright green limbs "might" be the result of discolouration.
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PostSubject: Re: Help Identifying this Green Limb Bossk   Thu Apr 07, 2016 9:40 am

At least Sergio's has the right coo, did you see two more have been listed that are the same coo as this figure claiming to be poch.  This is the concern.  If we call this poch then are those also poch?  And the newly listed ones don't even have the same green tint as tHis one.

Yes the paint looks close, but is "close enough" satisfactory when the coo is different, the paint mask is different, the figure wasn't found in a Spanish collection, etc...?

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