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PostSubject: An instance to justify U grade   Thu Mar 16, 2017 12:31 pm

I have thought of an instance where the u grade can surely be justified: imagine this, the figure is still inside the bubble, bubble firmly attached to card, however, someone has cut along the perimeter of the bubble where it is attached to the card, therefore YoY are left with a very small card and bubble, the card size is only the size of the bubble. In this instance, the u grade can surely be justified.
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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:24 pm

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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:06 am

NO, people collect cut cards. People 'justify' U grades many ways- around here it is just NO.
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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Fri Mar 17, 2017 12:11 am

But what if the card is only the size of the bubble? Meaning 2 inch by 4inch?
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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:08 am

What if this is all that is attached to be bubble??
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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:15 am

I know what a 'cut card' is.  Some ( a small portion ) are Kenner employee store items, others were Christmas stocking fillers etc.  It is NEVER OK to destroy an item that exists in finite quantities.  As I said people collect & preserve them.


Opening them with some justification like " I get a mint figure " is idiotic because the back of the figure may have factory damage- simply search google for examples of U75 figures proving my point.  If opening cut cards is OK- people will just cut up MOCs to then send in for grading.  We do not condone opening of anything- cut cards, baggies, lower quality MOCs- nothing, never, ever.
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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:44 am

That is an eye opener... of collection of cut cards. Thanks for the info!!
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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:22 pm

Glad everyone chimed in with a resounding "NO"

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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:42 pm

Destroying cut cards also denies focus collectors the chance to have something else unique in their collections. A cut card might not look or mean anything to you but to many it's still a piece of collectable history and to destroy it just to entomb it in sealed acrylic with a U grade means another piece of history is lost forever.

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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Fri Mar 17, 2017 4:50 pm

This has been an interesting thread to read and reflect on different positions.

While I never had an item opened to get a U grade, I have bought U graded figures (potentially promoting this practice).  I have also removed figures from damaged cards (not cut cards) to keep the "mint figure" for my own personal collection.  I hadn't considered that removing a figure from a damaged card could still be impacting the limited supply and other collectors.

:I am stupid:
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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:46 pm







not so mint
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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:08 am

Heavy Artillery wrote:
This has been an interesting thread to read and reflect on different positions.

While I never had an item opened to get a U grade, I have bought U graded figures (potentially promoting this practice).  I have also removed figures from damaged cards (not cut cards) to keep the "mint figure" for my own personal collection.  I hadn't considered that removing a figure from a damaged card could still be impacting the limited supply and other collectors.

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i opened a figure once , when i was much younger and naive . theres wasnt even grading when i did it . it was my kea moll figure . it was on a beauty of a card . didnt matter to me back then it was going for the same as a loose example . it was the last droids figure i needed and i opened her and stuck her in my collection . i would never do it today but it was probably 20 to 25 years ago . also i would never do it to get a U grade .
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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:15 am

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I have thought of an instance where the u grade can surely be justified: imagine this, the figure is still inside the bubble, bubble firmly attached to card, however, someone has cut along the perimeter of the bubble where it is attached to the card, therefore YoY are left with a very small card and bubble, the card size is only the size of the bubble. In this instance, the u grade can surely be justified.
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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:08 pm

hellhippie wrote:

i opened a figure once , when i was much younger and naive . theres wasnt even grading when i did it .

Same here.. in fact as a child back in the late 70's & right up until the mid 80's, I opened up all of my Star Wars toys & actually played with them.. I must of been crazy :I am stupid:


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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:11 pm

Thundershot and I had the same thought. I opened one once also........somewhere around 1985ish and it was wicket the baddest ewok/bear to ever come face to face with my hand-me down figures and gi joe figures I had. lol!

Also Shocked Andy Shocked good to see you back on here. :cool laugh:

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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:17 pm

trappedtexan wrote:
wicket the baddest ewok/bear to ever come face to face with my hand-me down figures and gi joe figures

Sure was...
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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:19 pm

HA HA HA did you already have that or just run out and make that pic? That is awesome.

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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Sat Mar 18, 2017 2:35 pm

Very Happy Thanks,
I took that one many years ago back when I used to have fun with my toys..
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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:17 pm

great photo
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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Sun Mar 19, 2017 4:08 am

thinking So, to those who collect carded figures, what are you folks planning to do when bubbles eventually yellow so badly that you can no longer see the figures inside their packaging?






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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Sun Mar 19, 2017 11:14 pm

Thundershot wrote:
thinking So, to those who collect carded figures, what are you folks planning to do when bubbles eventually yellow so badly that you can no longer see the figures inside their packaging?


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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:19 am

Thundershot wrote:
thinking So, to those who collect carded figures, what are you folks planning to do when bubbles eventually yellow so badly that you can no longer see the figures inside their packaging?
 

this will never happen .



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PostSubject: Re: An instance to justify U grade   Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:03 am

Thundershot wrote:
thinking So, to those who collect carded figures, what are you folks planning to do when bubbles eventually yellow so badly that you can no longer see the figures inside their packaging?
 






Well, there is nothing to say that will happen to every carded figure and that it will happen within our lifetime.

That said, I'll do what I do now, which is look at them and admire them. I'm not going to worry about something i have no control over

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