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PostSubject: Re: Return of the (Craigy's Luke) Jedi    Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:59 am

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So this is a fairly common miscarriage then I take it? Sticking to that theory of combining just what's left makes a little sense. But one would think since the factory knew these were mixed up, if done on purpose, then they would have some sort of clearance stickers all over them i would imagine. I mean surely a retailer didn't pay their full cost for these if these were purposely packed with leftovers.  Very neat little item. Sucks that the bubble is cracking so badly due to crushing. Wonder if you can create a band of sorts to run around the border of the bubble to support it. Not tape so it doesn't stick but something similar to plastic wrap just the width of the side of the bubble.  

Hi Bryan - do you mean something like transparent cling film? (the type used for covering sandwiches or other bits of food). That's a good idea. Thanks!

Agree with you on the mixed-up cards.  Come to think of it I don't recall seeing any price stickers of any kind on any of the cards I have seen. So maybe this theory is not as good I initially thought thinking

I did wonder if they were bubble tests (i.e. mocked up figures, shipped out to a dummy address, to test the bubble sealing integrity during transit) but the bubble appears to be similar the one used for the original Yan solo MOC.

You're right though, although Meccano miscards are indeed very rare, the Luc (Luke Jedi) on a Yan Solo is does appear to one of the more commonest.

Here's a bit more info that I found this morning (SWCA).

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PostSubject: Re: Return of the (Craigy's Luke) Jedi    Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:29 am



Craig Well done and thanks for sharing this excellent Yan Solo example.

Really cool stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Return of the (Craigy's Luke) Jedi    Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:40 pm

Fantastic piece to add to your already awesome collection Craig, congrats mate cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Return of the (Craigy's Luke) Jedi    Tue Apr 03, 2018 12:53 pm

Yeah that is the plastic wrap I mean Craig. It may be hard to do since bubbles sometimes don't have 90° angles to cardbacks, would have to check to see.

Odd that none had any type of clearance sticker on it. I would more likely assume these were made for testing purpose or something other than retail. Either that or they truly are miscards and not made from leftovers, meaning that the factory really thought it was packing solo and no one even checked to see until some quantity of them was done. I could see that happening also and perhaps the factory didn't even know they had carded these wrong and shipped them out.

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PostSubject: Re: Return of the (Craigy's Luke) Jedi    Wed Apr 04, 2018 5:43 pm

@TheSchwartz and @Nico - thanks guys!


Thanks too Bryan! - I will try the cling film.

You got me thinking now... I rechecked all the ones I have photos for; none of them have price stickers. More to this mystery we must solve me thinks! thinking unsure study
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PostSubject: Re: Return of the (Craigy's Luke) Jedi    Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:01 am

That's such a cool moc, Craig, despite the damaged bubble. Agree keep it laid flat for now, maybe consider sticking an oversize modern bubble over it 'like a hood' with some cotton wool or similar placed in between the gap of the two bubbles by his feet. Super congrats on acquiring that!

Interesting ideas on the origins. For me it seems plausible that the factory packed these up with whatever they had at hand and offered them out to retailers at discount. No need for stickers as they would have left this up to retailers to mark them. Knowing the few that have survived, imagine how many were opened by kids to play with? It may also be possible these were packed at the factory at the end of a run and the employees were allowed to keep them. Again, many were opened but the few that stayed as moc ended up being given away, sold, swapped. Don't know. Whatever, it makes for a very good moc mystery Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Return of the (Craigy's Luke) Jedi    Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:42 pm

Paul! cheers

You work so hard, I haven't heard from you in a while! Glad to you see you are OK and thank you for those tips!

I like your idea about people just taking the overstock home and hence no price stickers...it definitely a mystery for the mystery machine!
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PostSubject: Re: Return of the (Craigy's Luke) Jedi    Thu Apr 05, 2018 7:55 pm

Blog Update #8 (06/04/2018)

Time to say good bye …

A small blog this weekend as the Elusive (to me) MOCs, that I have managed to track down are still in postal limbo – they are somewhere between here in the North East of Scotland and there in the West Coast of the USA.

However, it doesn’t matter; this post is about letting go rather taking hold. Below is my beloved Unitoys (Made in Hong Kong - Factory HT) Luke Jedi with original accessories and snap cape.



I have had this fella for nearly decade and he has been a cherished part of my collection. By comparing my MOCs and his twin brother (who has a slightly different COO marking) – I can place him originally to be carded on either a 1st Edition or 2nd Edition 65-A Back (HT) card back. He’s in great shape.

I wasn’t planning on selling him and (to be honest) I did have to think very hard before doing so, but a friend here on TIG called out for help as the figure and its unique accessories are quite hard to find. I did help in trying to find some on eBay, but the prices were crazy. Wanting to help, I decided to sell one of my own.

After Bryan’s and Rodolfo unselfish act of kindness to me, I thought I would pass on the good will and part a loved piece into someone else’s quest. It helped fuel my Luke Jedi focus back in the day, hopefully it will be cherished in a new focus…  

It’s a weird sensation that I feel, money wasn’t really an issue here (and I did get compensated for my loss), but it was more the felling that I helped someone else and that made me happy and smile.

Have a good weekend all!  Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Return of the (Craigy's Luke) Jedi    Thu Apr 05, 2018 10:13 pm

That's awesome. Was it Andy who got it? Just curious as I saw he was looking for one i think. It's really a fun thing when you can help out fellow collectors with stuff; best part of being in the community. Heck I enjoy hanging out and chatting and learning about stuff more than i enjoy the actual toys anymore. Though seeing my childhood wicket still brings a huge smile to my face; the kenner line, while still nice to see and occasionally compare things too, is not nearly as precious to me as the ledy line and both pale in comparison to the journey and friendships I made while collecting them.

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PostSubject: Re: Return of the (Craigy's Luke) Jedi    Sun Apr 08, 2018 3:45 pm

Kudos for that Craigy, and it's a real minty LJ too. Sometimes letting things go is just as good as receiving. When I used to run prize compos I was aiming to give away one of my many loose Luke XW pilots as part of the prize. I found a couple of nice examples - it's not the easiest figure to find mint, was about to parcel one up then thought no... I searched out my most pristine and favourite LXWP, no paint rubs, perfect decals, tightest limbs and sent that. I tried to imagine how I would feel receiving such a nice figure and that's what swayed it really. On the other side of the coin I've also recieved prizes in TIG compos and it's a sweet feeling to find minty figures.

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PostSubject: Re: Return of the (Craigy's Luke) Jedi    Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:39 pm

This thread is truly an inspiration... from the meticulous detail/knowledge @Craig T shares on Jedi Luke, to the sincere generosity of @trappedtexan and @Fito for bringing a smile to Craig's face during a challenging moment in life.

You guys are great. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Return of the (Craigy's Luke) Jedi    Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:13 am

Blog Update #9 (27/06/2018)

2018 The Arc of Pennsylvania Charity Medallion …

A small package arrived this morning with two 2018 Luke Jedi - The ARC of Pennsylvania charity coins.

These are produced in conjunction with the Pennsylvania Star Wars Collecting Society (PSWCS) and you can read more about it here: PSWCS.com

As you can see, the image has a "vintage looking" Luke Skywalker and it's a really nice looking coin and with a decent weight to it.

There's some extra thumbnails below, where I have shown it next to a vintage POTF coin for size. Thanks to Bill Cable for highlighting this on his site, otherwise I would not have known.







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PostSubject: Re: Return of the (Craigy's Luke) Jedi    Tue Nov 20, 2018 3:54 pm

Blog Update #10 (20/11/2018)

2018 Star Wars DC Area Collecting Club - Charity Pin…

A sincere little thank you to Andy Nicol (@Nico).

Andy picked up a DC Area Collecting Club Charity Pin - the proceeds of which benefit the Tradegy Assistance Program for Survivors. For this 2018 pin the character featured is Luke Jedi.

Andy received two of these and being the super chap that he is, sent his second to me without asking for anything in return. One thing that's help this hobby stay great is the kindness of others!

This pin has a green Washington DC obelisk as the sabre blade and is dedicated to the memory of super Luke Jedi focus collector: Bob Marinazzi, who sadly passed away earlier this year. Bob did a tremendous amout of Charity work and was a key member of the DC Collecting Club. It quite fitting that they have chosen to dedicate the pin to his memory.

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PostSubject: Re: Return of the (Craigy's Luke) Jedi    Tue Nov 20, 2018 7:30 pm

Blog Update #11 (21/11/2018)

The Spoils of War and a New Discovery (for me) on ESB-h Kenner Baggies...



A few months back, I took a walk into the "wild side" that is Face Book; A daunting feat in my eyes, as I prefer the anonymity and security that a Forum and eBay brings. Along with the good; there is also the bad and the real ugly! So the advice given to me from a few friends was to proceed with caution…

Despite this, I have to admit the sheer power that social media brings to the palm of your hand in an instant is epic; I have met some really great people, reunited friendships with past members of this very forum and uncovered a swathe of Luke Jedi items including some of the items I had to let go of when we were expecting the little guy.

Amongst the spoils of war, I have uncovered pre-production; the final snap cape MOC that I needed, Spanish PBP Luke Jedi cardbacks, Meccano and Macau related Luke Jedi items, more overstock Luke Jedi figures, more French mustard glasses and Baggies.

First-up on the blog, is a set of Luke Jedi ESB-h type baggies…

I have been mistaken (for a good number of years), in believing that the ESB-h baggie type was made by the Vendor “U.M.” of Taiwan. This is the same vendor that made “Made in Taiwan” COO Luke Jedi figures and who printed a “TJ” factory stamp code next to the POP on their carded figures. Every baggie I saw had the same combo… Taiwan painted face Luke with correct Taiwan accessories and cape wrapped in a green paper sleeve.

A few weeks ago, a Luke Jedi – made by the vendor Unitoys, was shown to me, still sealed inside an ESB-h baggie. I immediately dismissed it as fake. Unitoys made the “Made in Hong Kong” COO Luke Jedi and up till now, no Luke Jedi baggies from this factory have ever surfaced.



The Unitoys Luke Jedi is highly desirable figure, as their production was halted early during in the 77-A back release. The moulds were sent to Mexico and the Lili Ledy Luke Jedi was born. I did inform the gent that, even though I didn’t think the baggie was legit, he did have a Unitoys Luke inside and that alone was worth a lot of money. The Gent came back a few days later, offering to sell it to me and I ended-up buying the baggie.





Once in my hands, I could see that the seal and baggie look legit, no evidence of reseal, same soft plastic baggie type and identical dimensions. Figure and Accessories were spot-on. This was a huge surprise to me as I couldn’t figure out how the Unitoys figure got inside.





I immediately started looking at all the ESB-h baggies for sale and to my surprise I could see figures packaged in the same ESB-h from a variety of factories – both Taiwan and Hong Kong. I never knew this.

It appears (as is the current acceptance amongst some baggie collectors) that the ESB-h baggie was made by Kenner in Cincinnati to keep-up with demand for baggies for its Catalogue Packs. When baggies of a certain character had run out, Kenner opened what carded figures they had to hand and bagged them-up in house to fill the gap. This why you can find both Taiwan and Hong Kong versions of the some characters in the same baggie. Although it’s appearing to be a Kenner-made universal baggie and not a specific Unitoys Luke Jedi baggie made in the Far East, this might be one’s only chance of getting a baggie specimen of this figure.

Last week another ESB-h Luke Jedi Baggie turned-up; this one does have the Taiwan figure inside, but it appears be an earlier one as the face paint is not as sharp and the green sleeve is missing. Maybe it was taken from an Early 65 Back as the cape is loose.





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PostSubject: Re: Return of the (Craigy's Luke) Jedi    Thu Nov 22, 2018 8:08 am

Blog Update #12 (22/11/2018)

Palitoy Factory Luke Jedi Overstock…

A part of my Luke Jedi focus this year has been to work on the preservation and display of the pieces that I already have. This display piece idea has been a long time in the making…

It’s a display case of 8 (mint & unused) Palitoy factory overstock Luke Jedi figures and accessories. These figures were made by the vendor Smile in the Far East and have the full “Hong Kong” COO stamp on the boot and come with the blue sabre. They are part of a huge quantity of Palitoy overstock that made its way to Australia after the Star Wars toy line died down in the 80s.





These are from the same “loose” stock that Palitoy would have used to card-up both Palitoy 65-B and 65-C cardbacks locally in Coalville, UK and also package earlier Luke Jedi Palitoy Baggies that had the blue sabre inside.





A special thank you goes to Nicholas Kazonis for supplying me with 6 mint overstock figures, including a special one with an unpainted hand.



If you have time, you should read Nicholas’s story below on how he got the overstock figures… 1000s of them. If you’re interested in getting one for yourself - ping him a pm: Nicholas' Post; his figures are high quality with nice paint and stiff limbs and come with an original cape.

The majority of the overstock weapons in the display and the two complete Luke Jedi figures on the first step come from Dan’s warehouse find in Australia, which I bought from him around 2009 – his post is still on Rebel Scum:

Superdan's Palitoy Find in Australia

I wanted a focal point for this collection, so I invested in a lovely display case and steps from GW Acrylic and Iain’s Display Accessories was kind enough to support my project and supply me with another load of Palitoy Stands.

I am hoping to buy an acrylic Palitoy embossed sign to replace the little temporary cardboard one I have made and I need to source one more overstock blue sabre to make up number 8 on the bottom.

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From Nicholas... "Palitoy factory Overstock "

Ok Craig the story goes like this, they originally came from the Palitoy factory in the mid to late 80's before that obviously they came from the Smile factory in HK. Someone that was working at Palitoy bought bucket loads of carded, baggie, loose figures and weapons as the sales plummeted. A mate here in Sydney bought a large amount of these and were sent to him via comet Miniatures (Tee Jays models) in London in the late 80's early 90's.

I was lucky enough to buy some of the uncirculated loose x-wings, Jedis, Madines, 4-loms, various baggie figures, carded Tri logo figures and weapons. My mate also bought many more vintage Star Wars from Japan i.e. Poppy, Takara and Tsukuda. He is a legend here and has been in the game for over 40 years. I try to sell the best examples I have available to all collectors at a very reasonable price. I have loads of jedis x wings and Madine's that have chips and paint marks from being in storage loosely in boxes for so many years.

MTFBWY Kind regards, Nicholas Kazonis






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PostSubject: Re: Return of the (Craigy's Luke) Jedi    Thu Nov 22, 2018 9:34 am

That is a really cool pin from Andy. So a not newly discovered baggie type but newly discovered figure combo in the bag? I wonder if Frank has seen this figure combo or if he would know?  Great display on the palitoy Luke's. Speaking of palitoy did you hear about the prototypes recently found? Apparently palitoy was sent some Kenner protos (reasons are still under speculation) and one that was found was a Luke Jedi with alternate sculpting. Previously a Luke had been found in America but it was incomplete, this one has the whole thing there. More can be read on this here: http://www.starwarsforum.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=38027

And borrowing a pic from that proto thread:

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