The Thread of all Threads!!! Hope to get some good discussion out of this one!!!

The following is taken from the web site of the AFA (Action Figure Authority)....

UNCIRCULATED: Items which meet certain criteria will be assigned the designation of uncirculated. A packaged item sent to us in an unopened factory case or sleeve or a loose item sent to us in a factory sealed blister, box, or heat sealed bag* will receive this designation. You can then be certain that the item has never been handled nor circulated within the retail or collectible market. Packaged toys with double-tape or other characteristics which would normally disqualify them from receiving a grade, and loose items with incorrect or missing accessories can be assigned a grade with the uncirculated designation. All items assigned this designation are graded using the same scale and under the same standards as other items.
*Items must be removed from heat-sealed factory bags to be assured an uncirculated designation. Items from tape-sealed bags will only be assigned an uncirculated designation when an item is commonly found in this type of bag and our graders feel certain about the tape seal. In these cases, the inclusion of the designation will be at our sole discretion.

"U" Grading carded items as really taken off in the last year! Whether it is modern or vintage, more and more people seem to want their figures ripped from their cards in order to receive the coveted Uncirculated grade.

Many collectors love it!!! Others can not stand it!!! I for one am on the fence, and can see where both sides of the argument are coming from.

Part of me is for it, because I... like some collectors want to assemble a full line of U graded vintage Kenner Star Wars action figures. Why do I want them U graded? My reason isn't very solid.... its just my personal preference to have a collection of mint, untouched vintage Star Wars figures.

On the other hand, I am also against the U grading for the same reason. Compared to what other people have, my loose Star Wars action figure collection is very small, and wont grow much further beyond the 100 or so released figures and major variants. Some collectors on the other hand (many of them can be found on Rebelscum) want to monopolize the collecting hobby and want everything!!! Many of these collectors are the ones that will rip dozens of figures from their cards in order to have multiples of every possible figure and variant, or will ruin multiple carded figures in hopes to get that loose U90 or U95. Hording like that I am totally against!!!

So for those of us that are trying to collect carded figures, keep holding on to them and take good care of them! If the U grading sensation continues to grow, then the carded figures that we have will only become more scarce and cherished!!!

I am already aware of many of your opinions on this matter, but I would love for TIGF members to chime in on this topic!!!

Looking forward to reading your posts!!!

Coachk28
James

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Fucking terrible idea when there are so many equally nice ALREADY LOOSE figures out there to find and grade.

U90 and 90 are the same!

I would much rather spend $400-600 on a piece of pre production and know it was really rare than spend it on a figure that exists in multiples of thousands just because it has a letter U on a sticker in an acrylic box.

It was an idea purely based on greed and money making, I don't care for arguments against that statement as there aren't any.

- U grading takes cheaper collectibles away from younger/less wealthy collectors - TRUE
- U grading destroys packaged collectibles that have lasted 30 years - TRUE
- U grading is GREAT for dealers to make insane money out of people who crave for U grades - TRUE

Apart from dealers getting richer and AFA getting richer - what is the benefit of U grading ?

I would like to end my post with saying - the only awesome thing to come out of U grading is that when AFA is dead, when people no longer collect "U" , the U90 collectors who have paid and are paying hundreds of dollars for run of the mill figures with a high grade will be surrounded by the most over priced and worthless collections in the world. (which is a bit of a shame but these guys won't be told ! We have tried!)

I have read a post like this one before on RS and it got a harsh response. Where most people where against the opening of carded or sealed figures as its another lost carded figure etc. To a certain extent I would agree with that statement. I would hate to guess how many figures are removed from the cards on a daily basis. But the number of carded figures will be dropping and dropping.

I only think its ok if the owner truly wants to. As he is the owner of the piece after all and that gives them the right to do what they want.

I would resist it all the time if I could.
But if something was battered and say a 60 rated card and the figure may grade at a U90. Then I would if neded send the figure to be U graded.

Everyone is different and has different opinions. But that is mine

Andy

Have never done it myself and don't like the way they display, but don't have a massive problem with it

That is for carded figures, as for boxed ships, mini rigs and cretures. i'm dead against it

At least with a figure you can see the potential grade, with a vehicle you have no clue and may have destroyed for no reason

Although I do agree on most points with Joe!

To sum it up I would not buy a U grade figure or grade one myself.

Like I said... I'm on both sides...

But I couldn't agree with you more Joe!!! Perfectly said!!!

Someone paid like $300-400 (or more I can't remember) for a U90 Death star droid.

Now, ok that figure is a huge pain to get in nice condition, and it was the only U90 ever graded but really.. that figure in about a C8 is like $15 at the most.

If you push yourself you can get one C8-9 and perfectly acceptable as displayable for like $40 or so (yeah even that seems pricey but if you want mint its hard to find)

So, to pay $400 for a C9 $40 figure, an acrylic box (what $20 tops??) and a little label is really quite crazy.

I think Joe has pretty much hit the nail on the head, U grade things out of factory sealed shipping boxes YES! U grade MOC's and MISB stuff NO!

Hahaahahah!!!

Tell us how you really feel about the subject Josh!!!

I think he just did!

He's been there and done it, he must be getting old because he has run out of steam to argue

To be fair I wasn't going to reply, its nothing against you coach its just the topic has been thrashed on all forums I have been on, I do however still feel strongly about it and although I hardly pick up the pitch fork on the other forums I wanted to at least have one rage post on TIG

It was about time this forum got its own U-grading thread.

LOL Joe! too true

No offense taken!!!

I've seen similar threads on other forums, and have talked to other Gunnery members about it.

I'm sure many of you have already beaten this topic to death.

But with all the new members, me included.... its nice to see what people feel about the topic!!!!!