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PostSubject: A look into Cromalins : Jabbas Dungeon playset   A look into Cromalins : Jabbas Dungeon playset I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 6:46 pm

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A look into Cromalins and the design process of a Kenner toy!


The design of both versions of the Jabbas Dungeon Playset are quite eye catching, the original with its warm Orange colour and the POTF version with a cool Green, I think they stand out really nicely on display, another win for the Kenner design team!

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The picture above shows my Cromalin, it has various marked changes and notes on it, most notably is the wording that is underneath some of the "action" shots the side of the box has on it.

The text that was originally conceived was :


The Branding Iron Will Torture Any Droid In Jabbas Dungeon

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It seems that the word torture was a bit too much for this particular kids toy, even if it did feature a torture droid!

This change was marked on the Cromalin by one of the departments that worked on this design and you can read the new suggested text here :


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It reads : Use the branding iron on any droids in Jabbas dungeon

I believe the wording bottom left indicates the text/size to be used (10pt Avant Gard Medium)

Well, I got interested to see if that change actually was made or was left out due to time constraints and to my surprise the new text IS on the finished article :


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The cool thing is (and you may have seen it in the last picture) that the change was NOT added to the box design that went ahead for printing, it is actually a sticker!

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You can see it clearer in the above picture, a small black sticker with the new text neatly stuck over the old text!

This I presume happened at the factory at some stage, where I couldn't tell you but I do know I have seen playsets without the sticker and sure enough if you check your playsets and took the sticker up the old "torture" text is still underneath Smile

There are a few more cool things on this piece, the next picture shows the box design a bit closer and you will notice that the bottom right blank areas are marked for changes

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These boxes are the barcode box (called a UPC) and the top is noted as a PIS, interestingly they were printed out on the final design and here is the wording that went into the PIS box.

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Timeline:


This particular Cromalin started its journey on the 7th June 1983, first sign off is the 8th June, in Marketing.

Here is the sign off sheet which shows the dates ,signatures and departments it went through.


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If you check the last date on the sheet you can see it was signed off by an Engineer on June 22nd and seemingly signed off again on the same day by the Packaging Art Director, he didn't date it but he used the same pen so I think its safe to say it was the same day.

June 22nd has a special meaning to me because it is my birthday. I was very lucky to have this piece come up and with the birthday link I couldn't pass it up, so I need to say a big thanks to my Wife who bought this for my 26th this year Very Happy

(I have wanted to do this for a long time, since receiving my Jabbas Dungeon Cromalin and first noticed distinct changes of the original design to the finished article.
I hope this thread was slightly informative and interesting, the pictures are still not ideal or really what I wanted for this thread but they will serve their purpose and are clear enough to view Smile )
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PostSubject: Re: A look into Cromalins : Jabbas Dungeon playset   A look into Cromalins : Jabbas Dungeon playset I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 7:42 pm

Wow this thread was a great read Joe!!! Kudos!

I have to agree i thought both the orange background for the ROTJ design and the green background for the POTF design were great choices and both look great on display!

Just to add to the thread for those that may not have seen them before this is the POTF Version -

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PostSubject: Re: A look into Cromalins : Jabbas Dungeon playset   A look into Cromalins : Jabbas Dungeon playset I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 8:23 pm

Killer write up Joe and very well explained. I looked at a few dungeons and never paid any attention to the sticker change. I wonder if any actually got out without the sticker applied.
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PostSubject: Re: A look into Cromalins : Jabbas Dungeon playset   A look into Cromalins : Jabbas Dungeon playset I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 8:30 pm

I'm glad you got around to posting this info Joe. It really shows how great pieces like these are as you get an inside look as to what was going on in Kenner. I am still amazed at how much preproduction has survived and glad that it did. I also love the birthday reference, even then Kenner knew you were destined for 8D8. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: A look into Cromalins : Jabbas Dungeon playset   A look into Cromalins : Jabbas Dungeon playset I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 10, 2010 8:31 pm

That thing is so cool!!!

I want one that has Boba Fett on it!!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: A look into Cromalins : Jabbas Dungeon playset   A look into Cromalins : Jabbas Dungeon playset I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 11, 2010 12:48 am


A very nice inside story, Joe. I enjoyed reading it very much. Thx!
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A fun read Joe, thanks.

Any more people have one of these for a follow up?
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PostSubject: Re: A look into Cromalins : Jabbas Dungeon playset   A look into Cromalins : Jabbas Dungeon playset I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 11, 2010 7:34 am

Great write up Joe & very informative too! Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: A look into Cromalins : Jabbas Dungeon playset   A look into Cromalins : Jabbas Dungeon playset I_icon_minitimeWed Aug 11, 2010 8:53 am

Glad you enjoyed it guys Smile I would like anyone else with marked Cromalins to take part and do a similar thread in the future so if you do have one and wish to review it in this way , please don't hesitate to make your own thread!

I am also glad to tell you that yesterday I was asked if the write up could be included on the SWCA! Will link you if it makes it Smile
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@Joe_O wrote:

I am also glad to tell you that yesterday I was asked if the write up could be included on the SWCA! Will link you if it makes it Smile

Awesome Joe! I don't see why it wouldn't be included, so let us know when it is added.
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Maybe they'll make you their official cromalin reviewer and you get to keep every other cromalin. Very Happy
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@Capetown wrote:
Maybe they'll make you their official cromalin reviewer and you get to keep every other cromalin. Very Happy

You have the best ideas Emi Cool Laughing
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I do, don't I. Cool
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Joe that's a great write-up and research piece on the cromalin - enjoyed thanks Smile
And kudos too on getting the SWCA inclusion ask cheers

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Major kudos for the SWCA inclusion, Joe. I know that made your day.
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great write up Joe! glad i read it here first Wink
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Real interesting stuff Joe. I'm sure that little tale will encourage others to go for a cromalin if they come up. Well done on SWCA nomination too bud.
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Well it's taken a year but it made it to the Archive finally - http://theswca.com/index.php?action=disp_item&item_id=80885

And a bump if anyone is interested in Kenner design/cromalins Smile
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Congrats on getting it on the Archive finally, Joe. Dont let it give you a big head now that your officially in the Inner Circle. lol!
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Lol I think it would take another 10 years and 100 more contributions to get near that inner circle lol!
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Very cool items Shocked
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Joe what a refreshing read. I had no idea you wrote this last summer - an awesome bit of scholarhip with all the details. It not surprising that you were invited to add your words to the SWCA.

Wow the birthday date and 8D8 link are very trippy but that the force for you! lol

I love how they tried to be more "family friendly" with the stickers covering up the nasty words like torture.

I can't see why though as every kid must of replayed that scene at home. I remember me and my cousin burning captured stormtrooper feet off with the hot irons back in 83 and I still had the clubbed foot stormies until a few years back.

I didn't release that there was a check off sheet too, so looking forward to seeing what is on mine when I finshed the paying it off.

A thought about the signitures... Could the same person signed off the two check boxes? He wasn't supposed to, but you would be surprised how often that is done in engineering projects, as the right people often are not in at the right time and if deadline are tight QA goes right out the window. It might explain why the stickers had to be used. Back in the old job we would just sign for the senior guy - as it was more likely we would check the work twice than him once. Though we made sure we wrote in a different colour pen.
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This just goes to show you how special Star Wars is to some people. It affected many people's live in different ways. Thanks for sharing this information and story!

it was very nice of you to do so!

cheers mate! enjoy your treasure!

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