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PostSubject: How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)?   How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 13, 2011 1:52 pm

I've seen this particular variant mentioned on other sites before as being rare, and there's one on Ebay right now with a BIN for $67.50:
http://cgi.ebay.com/HAN-SOLO-white-legs-variation-vintage-Star-Wars-figure-/370494154948?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56432c28c4

So just how rare is he, and is the description in that auction accurate about how the first few Han's produced had white legs and then were soon changed to the common black-molded leg version, making the production numbers for this variant low and rare?

The reason I ask is because I just found one in a local comic shop for $9.99 with only minor paint wear on the boots and hair. Was it a lucky find, or is the rarity and value of this variant grossly exaggerated by the above auction?
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)?   How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 13, 2011 2:15 pm

I think you got a bargain for $10 Smile

Dealers will charge $40-70 for a c8 one so his price is about right.

They can be found on ebay US as normal Han's as people don't know what they are - just
check for paint rubs on the toes/heels and if there is white showing through then it is this variant.

A cool and overlooked variant imo Cool

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PostSubject: Re: How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)?   How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 13, 2011 2:39 pm

But is his description true about the white-molded Han being the first version before they switched to black-molded legs, which means any white-molded Han is one of the first out of the factories in 1977-1978 right?
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)?   How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 13, 2011 3:44 pm

Wouldn't want to say for sure about it being the first version. But the only times I ever seem to come across this variant is either on American Ebay or from some other American shop, and most of the other significant variations that where the result of an early change ( i.e Vinyl cape Jawa and DT saber's ) tend to have been part of the earliest waves sent out to U.S stores. I guess finding carded versions would be the only true way to establish a rough time line.
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)?   How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 13, 2011 7:47 pm

I think there are 2 with slightly different leg markings?
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)?   How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 13, 2011 8:27 pm

@aussiejames wrote:
I think there are 2 with slightly different leg markings?


Yes, the Hong Kong COO is slightly higher on his left leg compared to the black-molded leg version.
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)?   How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 13, 2011 10:19 pm

I meant there are 2 different white molded leg versions ( I think), I'll take a pic of mine latter & we can compare. There will be a few people here that have both.
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How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? SDC11934


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PostSubject: Re: How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)?   How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 13, 2011 10:50 pm

Here's closeup pics of the COO for the one I got this week:

https://2img.net/r/ihimizer/g/hanwhitelegs2.jpg/

In the yellow background pic, the white molded leg Han is on the left and black molded Han is on the right.

In the black background pic, the white molded leg Han is on the right and black molded Han is on the left.
[img]How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? Hanwhitelegs[/img]
[img]How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? Hanwhitelegs2[/img]
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)?   How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? I_icon_minitimeWed Apr 13, 2011 11:33 pm

Our white molded COO is not unique, there are at least 3 different black molded small head Hans
How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? SDC11935
the one on the left is the same COO as our white molded version
doc atomic sold one (too cheaply Razz ) for $20 recently
Now who has another version of the white molded leg?
In regards to it's production date, it can only be checked looking at MOCs - which will be hard to look at peg holes with the majority of SW cards having footer cards. Also if there are indeed 2 versions of it, then there must have been at least 2 'runs'?
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)?   How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 14, 2011 4:22 am

A few notes:

-the white Han exists with coo #2 and #3.
https://2img.net/u/3011/13/96/10/album/han11.jpg
both coos exists with both kind of legs: white and black!

-can also be found in GB

- is probably a first issue figure!

If you look at the first figures that were relesaed you may notice:
ALL SW-released figures have same mold color on legs and arms! I assume the first ones were produced similar to some polish and TT spure tree examples: a pair of legs and a pair of arms on one spure tree!
This could be the reason to mold the legs white, because the arms needed to be molded white.
A later change in production, i.e. seperating the spures, like making spure trees with only arms and spure trees with only legs, made it possible to produce black molded legs and white molded arms!

Seperating the spuretrees this way, was obviously necassary anyway for the ESB line. See i.e. Lando Bespin and Han Hoth molded legs, etc.

So my guess is that the production was changed when the first ESB figures with 2 tone limbs were produced!


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PostSubject: Re: How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)?   How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 14, 2011 9:13 am

@wbobafett wrote:


So my guess is that the production was changed when the first ESB figures with 2 tone limbs were produced!




I like your theory Wolff, only the last part here, doesn't fit, as this would mean all 12 back carded Han's are white molded leg version.....
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)?   How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 14, 2011 12:10 pm

well, I have no proof that its not like this. You have seen any 12-back black molded legs...I mean a picture from thze PEG-holes??? Im really far away from beeing a MOC expert....and most MOC experts are far away from beeing interested in variants....

You have any informations on this?

edit: you cannot see the PEGs on 12-backs...so no proof is possible. Damn. Well the 12 backs I saw seem to have white molded legs, because the legs are normally much more shiny (the painted ones).

I would really like to see some proof of a 12-back black molded legs han...and therfore you need a PEG-hole picture IMO. Anyone???

I also tend to say: this variant is not as rare as its traded. You can find them nearly every week if you know whta to look for! Its just still a very unknown variant...dunno why :scratch:
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)?   How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 14, 2011 3:03 pm

@wbobafett wrote:
well, I have no proof that its not like this. You have seen any 12-back black molded legs...I mean a picture from thze PEG-holes??? Im really far away from beeing a MOC expert....and most MOC experts are far away from beeing interested in variants....

You have any informations on this?

edit: you cannot see the PEGs on 12-backs...so no proof is possible. Damn. Well the 12 backs I saw seem to have white molded legs, because the legs are normally much more shiny (the painted ones).

I would really like to see some proof of a 12-back black molded legs han...and therfore you need a PEG-hole picture IMO. Anyone???

I also tend to say: this variant is not as rare as its traded. You can find them nearly every week if you know whta to look for! Its just still a very unknown variant...dunno why :scratch:


Ok first off all, i cant check this myself as i don't have an 12 back Han.... Sad

And on second thought about finding "proof", if these would be white legs Han figures, we would be able to see this, it's quite common for carded figures to still get some minor paintloss... Or someone must have a MOC with crushed bubble where the footer is re-positioned....

For all we know, it could be that all these Han's on 12 backs are just the regular ones and that the white molded one is the Harder to find 1st issued one (kinda like the VC jawa, wich got turn around in the process really soon). but not just that visible.... (it's also just a theory, but think about it). Shocked

If some guys with MOC 12Back Han's can chime in and shed some light on this, that would be great.


Cheers, Dennis.
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)?   How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 14, 2011 3:08 pm

How about I just open my 12-back Han and settle this matter. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)?   How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 14, 2011 4:45 pm

I did not know about the Han Solo white molded legs before I read it here.

I will check my figures, maybe I am lucky 🎅
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)?   How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? I_icon_minitimeFri Apr 15, 2011 4:32 pm

Hey, what about factory re-cards, the small head Hans ended up on ESB cards, maybe a few of them have white legs. Hard to prove but a nice thought.
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PostSubject: Re: How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)?   How rare is Han Solo (white molded legs)? I_icon_minitimeWed Sep 21, 2011 9:25 pm

i bought 2 figures form ebay, not a big star wars dealer but just someone who wanted to get rid of them i guess.

I guess i got some lucky with this because:

I have a long eyed tusken raider that is almost close to being mint... some people say it might be a rare variant.

I also checked my han (and he almost perfect too) after reading this thread.

the toy has the small head and the white legs, i checked under the shoes and the inside of the peg holes are white and there are a few scuff marks under the boots showing that the legs are white.

paid under 25$ for both!

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