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PostSubject: A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks   A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 31, 2011 6:22 am

So last week I picked up my Canadian Boba Fett MOC at the house of this former dutch collector (see another thread). The guy was very friendly and showed me his collection room, with glass cabinets still holding pieces of his collection. He was asking whether I needed anything else, so I scanned the whole room but there was not much vintage anymore, still lots of modern stuff.

I gave up, but as of a sudden my eye was caught by something, which was almost carelessly put away on the lowest shelf of a cabinet. At first glance it looked like two vintage miniposters, but on closer inspection, I immediately realized I was holding two cardbacks of the rare German Power of the Force (“Kraft der Macht”) special offers. I felt over the moon actually holding these exciting items, this was an unexpected encounter and a joyful moment, and the fact these were beater cards was not going to change that.

The collector apparently was totally unaware of the rarity of these items. He got them when he was a kid from another kid that had spent the holidays in Germany with his parents. The kid kept the toys but gave the cardbacks to him.

Though I don't collect cardbacks. I wanted to make an exception in this case. When I had offered him 2 Euros I probably would have gotten away with it. That is not my style however, so I told him these were rare cardbacks and despite their condition might be worth a few bugs. I took them home to make some pics and now I would like to make a fair offer, question is what would be fair in your eyes?

Here is a nice link to the “Kraft der Macht” special offers: http://www.kraftdermacht.de/MOC-KDM.shtml

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PostSubject: Re: A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks   A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 31, 2011 6:56 am

Very Cool Marco It looks like one of those cards there was 2 figures and a vehicle on Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks   A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 31, 2011 6:57 am

I have no clue what they are worth, but thanks for showing, I have never seen those before Smile really cool!

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haha Leia Combat Poncho only got helm in the picture. and the emperor looks like he is doing that spiritual thing with two sticks.
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PostSubject: Re: A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks   A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 31, 2011 7:08 am

Marco

Nice find but i too have no idea what they are worth? i am sure someone will though, if not you should come to a arrangement which suits you both!
i mainly just wanted to write and tell you that i admire your honesty in this matter and reading your posts and replys is always a pleasure...

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PostSubject: Re: A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks   A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 31, 2011 12:27 pm

@milkiebarker wrote:
Marco

Nice find but i too have no idea what they are worth? i am sure someone will though, if not you should come to a arrangement which suits you both!
i mainly just wanted to write and tell you that i admire your honesty in this matter and reading your posts and replys is always a pleasure...


Well said Very Happy

About that price maybe Michael who has sold a MISB one of them has an idea about the price .
https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/u273

He he Claes and the IRG is backwards and has no weapon like some of the others . The Wicket has very with ears . Funny to see this Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks   A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks I_icon_minitimeSun Jul 31, 2011 12:45 pm

I have a vague memory of Michael selling a cardback on ebay similar to this as well :scratch:
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PostSubject: Re: A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks   A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks I_icon_minitimeMon Aug 01, 2011 7:16 am

Congrats Marco to this great find. In my eyes those Cardbacks are really underrated, they look fantastic and are from the most rare items ever produced.

I sold my Vehicle Cardback for 50 GBP, I do think this is really much too less. I paid for my first Card 200 Euro but the market wasn´t interested in it.

The Figure Cardback is missing the Front, the last complete with front was going for 500 Euro on Ebay Germany but without I would estimate it only in the 50 Euro area.

Hope this helps a bit

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PostSubject: Re: A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks   A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 02, 2011 6:09 pm

@Michifromhell wrote:
Congrats Marco to this great find. In my eyes those Cardbacks are really underrated, they look fantastic and are from the most rare items ever produced.

I sold my Vehicle Cardback for 50 GBP, I do think this is really much too less. I paid for my first Card 200 Euro but the market wasn´t interested in it.

The Figure Cardback is missing the Front, the last complete with front was going for 500 Euro on Ebay Germany but without I would estimate it only in the 50 Euro area.

Hope this helps a bit

Michael

Hi Michael,

Thank you very much for your info, very helpfull indeed!!! Very Happy

@Rawlin wrote:

haha Leia Combat Poncho only got helm in the picture. and the emperor looks like he is doing that spiritual thing with two sticks.

@soren wrote:

He he Claes and the IRG is backwards and has no weapon like some of the others . The Wicket has very with ears . Funny to see this Very Happy

Good spot guys! I hadn't seen that before. An interesting cardback in every way.

@milkiebarker wrote:
Marco

Nice find but i too have no idea what they are worth? i am sure someone will though, if not you should come to a arrangement which suits you both!
i mainly just wanted to write and tell you that i admire your honesty in this matter and reading your posts and replys is always a pleasure...


Thx for the kind words, Kevin, I appreciate it!
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PostSubject: Re: A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks   A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks I_icon_minitimeTue Aug 02, 2011 6:50 pm

@soren wrote:

He he Claes and the IRG is backwards and has no weapon like some of the others . The Wicket has very with ears . Funny to see this Very Happy

Yes he looks like a fat cousin of mickey mouse Razz The only looking macho in the picture is Lando Skiff Guard, he got a mean look there, like he means business. Weequay holds axe wrong and teebo lol.

Is that a faded boba? Razz just kidding.

Edit: Could you do a close up on boba that thing starts to look brighter the longer I look at it.
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PostSubject: Re: A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks   A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 05, 2011 7:43 am

I made some long overdue close ups for Joe's site.

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I like the little funny details on these German cardbacks which you tend to miss at first glance:

  • Lando Skiff looking dumb while holding his vibroblade upside down
  • Chief Chirpa looking a bit old with a yoda stick
  • FX-7 with a bent arm
  • Nikto with the wrong weapon
  • Prune Face w/o cape
  • Leia w/o poncho
  • Han w/o trenchcoat
  • Teebo with unpainted hood
  • and the best.....Wicket without hood and white ears making him look like Mickey Mouse


Did I miss anything?

Pity that the kid used a green marker, probably to indicate which figures he already had. On the other hand, I don't mind too much, it makes this card even more authentic.

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PostSubject: Re: A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks   A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 05, 2011 7:52 am

Nice Marco, I love the last shot :

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Not only are they all prototypes (Internal first shots/ first shots or even hard copies (check out Teebo)) it shows Leia Poncho, Han Endor and Prune face all capeless, the interesting thing about that is that we know from existing prototypes that before the fabric capes were approved by Kenner a number of tests were done in various different colours to get the right size etc (Pink poncho Leia and so on) so this picture would have been very early on when the fabric capes were probably not even finalised yet.

The 8D8 is also of special interest to me because it appears to be the same internal first shot sold through the earth that I have been looking for now for about ..5 years! Boo! lol

Thanks for uploading those Marco Smile

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PostSubject: Re: A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks   A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 05, 2011 8:05 am

Great pictures Marco, I nearly brought one of those At-St driver prototypes about 6 months ago, thought It would have fitted in to me collection well Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks   A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 05, 2011 3:17 pm

@Joe_O wrote:

Not only are they all prototypes (Internal first shots/ first shots or even hard copies (check out Teebo)) it shows Leia Poncho, Han Endor and Prune face all capeless, the interesting thing about that is that we know from existing prototypes that before the fabric capes were approved by Kenner a number of tests were done in various different colours to get the right size etc (Pink poncho Leia and so on) so this picture would have been very early on when the fabric capes were probably not even finalised yet.

The 8D8 is also of special interest to me because it appears to be the same internal first shot sold through the earth that I have been looking for now for about ..5 years! Boo! lol

Thanks for uploading those Marco Smile



Wow, I didn't realize they were all prototypes. Interesting stuff, thanks for telling!! Very Happy

Good luck hunting the FS 8D8, Joe!!

Same for Scott (FS AT-ST driver)
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PostSubject: Re: A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks   A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks I_icon_minitimeSat Nov 05, 2011 3:33 pm

WOW What interesting pieces! I love them.
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PostSubject: Re: A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks   A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks I_icon_minitimeSun Nov 06, 2011 5:30 am

I think it could be cool to have such a cardback standing in my POTF collection lol!
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PostSubject: Re: A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks   A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks I_icon_minitimeFri May 11, 2012 1:14 pm


I decided to keep the German cardbacks and worked out a good deal yesterday (including a Chinese diner for the original owner at my place Very Happy).

German stuff rocks, see also Mirco's Land of the Jawa's playset, posted earlier this week.

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PostSubject: Re: A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks   A small discovery: German POTF special offer cardbacks I_icon_minitimeFri May 11, 2012 1:31 pm

Glad you worked out a deal Marco and decided to keep them. They're such interesting and unique photographic pieces with the prototypes and missing accessories. Great work cheers

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