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PostSubject: Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes   Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 09, 2011 3:11 pm

Hi does any of you guys know how many cape variants there is for this figure ?

I have bought some with figures from some childhood collections.

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PostSubject: Re: Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes   Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 09, 2011 3:24 pm

Theres 2 I know of. The Kenner cut and the YPS cut. Heres a thread discussing the YPS cape

https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t2659-help-with-yps-snowtrooper-capes

And then theres the round hole and small hole cape. Those I believe are Kenner ones.

Just seen the pix now and you got both capes. Top one Kenner, bottom one YPS cape. Congrats on it. You can read about the YPS one here


http://www.kennersuperpowers.com/snowtrooper/germanypssnowtrooper.html
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PostSubject: Re: Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes   Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 09, 2011 4:03 pm

@Chris_J wrote:
Theres 2 I know of. The Kenner cut and the YPS cut. Heres a thread discussing the YPS cape

https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t2659-help-with-yps-snowtrooper-capes

And then theres the round hole and small hole cape. Those I believe are Kenner ones.

Just seen the pix now and you got both capes. Top one Kenner, bottom one YPS cape. Congrats on it. You can read about the YPS one here


http://www.kennersuperpowers.com/snowtrooper/germanypssnowtrooper.html

Thanks for the links chris Very Happy

The first cape I found on a figure with 2 small scars. The figure was bought in Denmark in the 80s.

The Second cape I found on a figure with a Hong Kong coo. The seller told me some family in the 80s mailed it from USA to him in Denmark.

So they could have been on different types of cards. Could it be that cape one was on european cards and cape two was on kenner cards ?

The holes looks very different.
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PostSubject: Re: Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes   Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes I_icon_minitimeWed Nov 09, 2011 4:28 pm

I do know that the 2nd cape was the YPS exclusive and only found with that figure. So, no it wasnt found on any card Im aware of. Theres been no report of it found MOC before that I remember hearing about. So Im not sure how it got mailed from the US and it shouldve been a reversed or scarred COO figure according to that link. If it did come from the US, the person they got it from got in when they picked it up in Germany. But to be honest, I would have someone who knows more about them to have a look at the cape to make sure its legit. Either that or it sounds like you got the capes backwards. Very Happy The reason is cause you said the round hole one came from Denmark and the other one from the US. I think you got them swapped around.

As for your other question, the 1st cape is the general cape used so it couldve came on any card.
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PostSubject: Re: Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes   Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 10, 2011 11:55 am

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I do know that the 2nd cape was the YPS exclusive and only found with that figure. So, no it wasnt found on any card Im aware of. Theres been no report of it found MOC before that I remember hearing about. So Im not sure how it got mailed from the US and it shouldve been a reversed or scarred COO figure according to that link. If it did come from the US, the person they got it from got in when they picked it up in Germany. But to be honest, I would have someone who knows more about them to have a look at the cape to make sure its legit. Either that or it sounds like you got the capes backwards. Very Happy The reason is cause you said the round hole one came from Denmark and the other one from the US. I think you got them swapped around.

As for your other question, the 1st cape is the general cape used so it couldve came on any card.

Hi chris, no I have not swapped them around. They have been in a box with many other figures from that seller and the other cape have also been in a box only with figures from the second seller. I have been so careful so I have only had 1 figure on the table at the same time.

Both figures had been stored away for more than 20 years according to the sellers, I also picked them up myself on both sellers address and they did not collect star wars. I talked with them about ½ hour each and they was not bought on the same day and also not on the same address.

I have some pictures of the coo that I found them on. But maybe as kids they have played with other kids and theres and others figures could have been swapped.

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This is the coo, cape 1 was on when I picked it up from the seller.

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This is the coo, cape 2 was on when I picked it up from the other seller.

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Here I have one with a third cape. This was mailed to me from a seller in a red cross shop here in Denmark. The figure and cape should have been from another danish choldhood collection.

Cape 1 and 2 feels like very soft plastic and I think they do not bend even after many years on a figure.

Cape 3 feels not that soft and it does bend as you can see on the picture after many years on a figure.

@aussiejames wrote:
The round hole capes were found on some Trilogo MOCs : https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t3209-scards22-s-snowtrooper-focus-pictures-pic-heavy

Hi James, thanks for the link, but I miss some pictures of those capes on the link Very Happy

So the first cape could have been from a tri-logo card Smile There was also sold so many Tri-logo in Denmark.
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PostSubject: Re: Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes   Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 10, 2011 12:33 pm

I havent had one in hand before, so I can't say much except by going by the link I gave you on this.

The COO on the first ones looks good for the YPS and the second and 3rd for the US (or Kenner release) ones. Its possible like you said as kids they got swapped. I know mine did when I was younger. Just had to take the things off for the fun of it. So what I would do is swap the capes to the right one, the round hole with the one with a COO and the other one with the scar and you should be fine.
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@Chris_J wrote:
I havent had one in hand before, so I can't say much except by going by the link I gave you on this.

The COO on the first ones looks good for the YPS and the second and 3rd for the US (or Kenner release) ones. Its possible like you said as kids they got swapped. I know mine did when I was younger. Just had to take the things off for the fun of it. So what I would do is swap the capes to the right one, the round hole with the one with a COO and the other one with the scar and you should be fine.

Hi chris I have been reading the link again. But they write one hole on YPS and 2 hole on Kenner.

http://www.kennersuperpowers.com/snowtrooper/germanypssnowtrooper.html

So is the capes not placed right ?

James told me it was maybe from Tri-logo.
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PostSubject: Re: Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes   Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 10, 2011 2:03 pm

doh Carry on, nothing left to see here. lol! Need to take my own advise dont I? I read the article backwards. Your right, its the other way around.
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PostSubject: Re: Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes   Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 10, 2011 2:06 pm

Hi Guys,

The YPS Snowtrooper appeared on PBP Jedi card. Also, don't forget that Trilogos were massively exported to the US...

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doh Carry on, nothing left to see here. lol! Need to take my own advise dont I? I read the article backwards. Your right, its the other way around.

No problem mate lol!

@Panastur wrote:
Hi Guys,

The YPS Snowtrooper appeared on PBP Jedi card. Also, don't forget that Trilogos were massively exported to the US...

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Hi JC,

Thanks for the great picture and the information Very Happy

Was it only one no coo variant there was on YPS ? or was there more ?

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PostSubject: Re: Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes   Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 10, 2011 2:29 pm

I love that MOC JC, thanks for sharing it.

Lars here's the other YPS COO, also found on Tri-logo cards.
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PostSubject: Re: Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes   Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes I_icon_minitimeThu Nov 10, 2011 2:48 pm

Hi Scott, thanks for the help.

I have some pictures of those no coo I have. Is any of them YPS ?

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@pomse2001 wrote:
Hi Scott, thanks for the help.

I have some pictures of those no coo I have. Is any of them YPS ?

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Hi Lars

I'm not 100% sure but you can find the answer in vintage chat section, if you go back about 6 pages there is about 6 threads on YPS and I've seen it in one of them. It's a 2 part scar similar to your first pic.
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PostSubject: Re: Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes   Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 11, 2011 10:27 am

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@pomse2001 wrote:
Hi Scott, thanks for the help.

I have some pictures of those no coo I have. Is any of them YPS ?

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Hi Lars

I'm not 100% sure but you can find the answer in vintage chat section, if you go back about 6 pages there is about 6 threads on YPS and I've seen it in one of them. It's a 2 part scar similar to your first pic.

Thanks scott, Ì will try to find the links. So the rest are they just tri-logo ?
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PostSubject: Re: Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes   Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 11, 2011 11:53 am

I'm not sure mate, maybe some one else can help, there does seems to be lots and lots of different scar COO's for the Hoth Stormy though and you have some great ones there Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes   Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 11, 2011 11:58 am

Scott, is this the thread you were refering to?

https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t2887-yps-snowtrooper-variants

I just seen that Lars posted the last post in it. It was on page 7 now. Very Happy
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@snaggletooth wrote:
I'm not sure mate, maybe some one else can help, there does seems to be lots and lots of different scar COO's for the Hoth Stormy though and you have some great ones there Very Happy

Hi Scott thanks for the kind words.

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Scott, is this the thread you were refering to?

https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t2887-yps-snowtrooper-variants

I just seen that Lars posted the last post in it. It was on page 7 now. Very Happy

Hi chris, I had forgotten all about that thread. I can see we never maid an ID on the YPS scar Sad

Is PBP, Palitoy, Tri-logo and YPS all with scars ?

Will you also call the coo from picture 5 a no coo ?, it does not look like a scar, but it looks like something is erased. I have 2 of them with the same coo.
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@Chris_J wrote:
Scott, is this the thread you were refering to?

https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t2887-yps-snowtrooper-variants

I just seen that Lars posted the last post in it. It was on page 7 now. Very Happy

Thanks Chris I new I'd seen Lars COO some where.

Lars, I think stargeezer confirmed your scar as the same as his YPS figure.
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@snaggletooth wrote:
@Chris_J wrote:
Scott, is this the thread you were refering to?

https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t2887-yps-snowtrooper-variants

I just seen that Lars posted the last post in it. It was on page 7 now. Very Happy

Thanks Chris I new I'd seen Lars COO some where.

Lars, I think stargeezer confirmed your scar as the same as his YPS figure.

Hi Scott, yes he did. But he could not confirm that it was the one that was sold with the YPS comic in the 80s. Only that he bought an open YPS comic with the figure.
There is also many different double coo scars. Maybe only one of them was on the the YPS comic.

What do you think ?
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PostSubject: Re: Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes   Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 11, 2011 12:44 pm

I would trust Mike M's write up here -

http://www.kennersuperpowers.com/snowtrooper/germanypssnowtrooper.html

Hope that helps somewhat.

(Edit- X2 - my bad both look fine, "scar" with a gap and a single long "scar")
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@Joe_O wrote:
I would trust Mike M's write up here -

http://www.kennersuperpowers.com/snowtrooper/germanypssnowtrooper.html

Hope that helps somewhat.

(Edit- X2 - my bad both look fine, "scar" with a gap and a single long "scar")

Hi Joe it helps, I just miss some bigger pictures to compare :scratch:
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PostSubject: Re: Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes   Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) Capes I_icon_minitimeFri Nov 11, 2011 12:58 pm

Lars, the last pix I would consider a partial erased COO. Reasoning is its not a complete erased no COO since part of it is still there. But some may say it couldve been from a dirty mold not being cleaned good enough. But majority would be parcel erased COO. Hope that helps.

Thats the thing I seen on that site when I posted it, you cant enlarge the pix in it. But the text is pretty good.
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@Chris_J wrote:
Lars, the last pix I would consider a partial erased COO. Reasoning is its not a complete erased no COO since part of it is still there. But some may say it couldve been from a dirty mold not being cleaned good enough. But majority would be parcel erased COO. Hope that helps.

Thats the thing I seen on that site when I posted it, you cant enlarge the pix in it. But the text is pretty good.

Hi chris it looks like the us version, last picture on the link ? what do you think ?

He write Here is a photo of the US raised copyright located on the upper left boot for comparison:
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Same figure with the COO partialy removed. So possible it couldve came on a number of cardbacks. Im not even going to strech and say one or the other for it might be the wrong card.
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