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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 05, 2012 9:29 am

Scott, that middle one looks like someone used a lythe to make it. Mold circles are way smaller than the top one, looks way to thick compared to the top one. Does it bend like the others? It looks like it doesnt have the flexability like the other 2.
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 05, 2012 10:30 am

@Chris_J wrote:
Scott, that middle one looks like someone used a lythe to make it. Mold circles are way smaller than the top one, looks way to thick compared to the top one. Does it bend like the others? It looks like it doesnt have the flexability like the other 2.

Your right about it looking like it was made using a lythe Chris but is seems like a lot of trouble to go to. The mold circles are smaller but in the exact same place. They are the same thickness untill you turn them, the middle one is then round and the top one is more flat. (tried to show this in the pic) It feels like the others but is maybe a slightly more glossy/shiny plastic.

By the way I'm not trying to convince anyone this is original, just stating the facts.



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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 05, 2012 10:45 am

You just wondered if its a repro. Simple enough question. Right now, Id label it as one until more light comes out on it to show its not. As for looking like someone used a lythe, that was just a comparison to the marks left on it. I didnt mean someone actually did use one. Very Happy Where did you get it from, Ebay?
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 05, 2012 10:51 am

I was always thought that the exact depth and diameter of the mould circles could vary for an accessory, as this just indicates the point were the plastic was injected into the mould.

You see also different depths of the mould circles in Yoda's Ledy belt for instance.

So if the plastic is the same for the top and middle V1 staff in Scott's pic, meaning same flexibility, sound when dropping on the table, floating ability, I tend to think they are both genuine. One staff is just a little bit bent.



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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 05, 2012 10:55 am

Rolling Eyes .....didnt want to join this conversation but its seems you are all lost! All three a regular legit mold variants and therfore original!
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What is the difference between the top and middle mould except for the size and depth of the circles?

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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 05, 2012 11:01 am

@Dr Dengar wrote:


What is the difference between the top and middle mould except for the size and depth of the circles?


@snaggletooth wrote:
... the middle one is round and not flat'ish like the top one.
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 05, 2012 11:06 am

@wbobafett wrote:
@Dr Dengar wrote:


What is the difference between the top and middle mould except for the size and depth of the circles?


@snaggletooth wrote:
... the middle one is round and not flat'ish like the top one.

I thought Scott was referring to the fact that one staff was straight the other more bent and wrote it down the other way around.

Scott: Still I don't get what you mean here. Maybe you can explain a bit. Very Happy



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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 05, 2012 11:07 am

I rather be lost than to say something is legit when its not. I dont like theroys or myths as much as you do Wolff, so thats why I didnt throw one out there. Until something is proven true, it has to be false. Innocent until proven guilty, they always say.
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 05, 2012 11:09 am

@Dr Dengar wrote:
@wbobafett wrote:
@Dr Dengar wrote:


What is the difference between the top and middle mould except for the size and depth of the circles?


@snaggletooth wrote:
... the middle one is round and not flat'ish like the top one.

I thought Scott was referring to the fact that one staff was straight the other more bent and wrote it down the other way around.

Scott: Still I don't get what you mean here. Maybe you can explain a bit. Very Happy




Same here. The middle one looks straight compared to the other 2. Thats why I asked if the middle one bends like the other two do.
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 05, 2012 11:10 am

Thanks for joining in Wolf.

Chris, I got it with a loose Ackbar of ebay.

Marco, I mean the circumference of it is round unlike the top one where the width is longer than the depth.
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 05, 2012 11:15 am

@snaggletooth wrote:

Marco, I mean the circumference of it is round unlike the top one where the width is longer than the depth.

if turned at 90 degrees
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Oh thanks Scott, that helped a lot, now I understand.

cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeSun Feb 05, 2012 1:31 pm

@Dr Dengar wrote:


Oh thanks Scott, that helped a lot, now I understand.

cheers

I'm glad I got there in the end Marco Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 06, 2012 12:35 pm

@Dr Dengar wrote:
@pomse2001 wrote:


But maybe the thick one is on tri-logo and palitoy cards and the thin one is on kenner cards and baggies.

What do you guys think ?

That sounds like a much better theory, Lars. Very Happy

Let's see whether other members can come up with evidence to counter this theory.

Yes maybe this theory is better, I could also be wrong and both staffs can be on all cards, but maybe rare on some cards and normal on other cards.

But we need to see some more cards Very Happy

Can we agree on that the thick one has not be found in baggies ?
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 13, 2012 2:32 pm

These are the Ackbar staffs I have in my MoCs
Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 2604606430101869104S200x200Q85 65 back A Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 2453564090101869104S200x200Q85 65 back B Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 2815645010101869104S200x200Q85 65 back C Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 2892516470101869104S200x200Q85 65 back D
65 A= thin, B = thin, C= thick, D = thin
Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 2924977970101869104S200x200Q85 77 back A Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 2473896220101869104S200x200Q85 77 back B
77 A = thin, B = thin
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Foreign
Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 2012276440101869104S200x200Q85 Trilogo Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 2004472030101869104S200x200Q85 Tsukuda Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 2308508390101869104S200x200Q85 Australian Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 2228379010101869104S200x200Q85 Lili Ledy
Trilogo = thick, Tsukuda = thin, Australian = thin, Lili ledy = thin
Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 2982532770101869104S200x200Q85 Canadian Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 2671004650101869104S200x200Q85 Palitoy Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 2583846550101869104S200x200Q85 PBP Black offer Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 2967004330101869104S200x200Q85 PBP red offer Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 2511675300101869104S200x200Q85 Meccano
Canadian = thin, Palitoy = thick, PBP black = thin, PBP red = thick, Meccano = thick
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 13, 2012 2:40 pm

Very helpful pics RonnyA & welcome to the forum!

I'm guessing that when the FOTW thread covers Admiral Ackbar you will be a major contributor! Very Happy


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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 13, 2012 2:47 pm

nice that you finally could post your pictures ronny Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 13, 2012 2:51 pm

That's some solid evidence!!!


Thanks and welcome to TIG.

Off road: Any chance of making some pics of the Ledy MOC and posting them in the Lili Ledy thread?
The Ledy Ackbar is a very difficult figure to distinguish from his Kenner counterpart, so the more pics we have the better.
Alos, do you see any difference with a Kenner staff? (pls answer in the other thread, don't want to hijack Larse's Very Happy )..
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 13, 2012 3:11 pm

Hi Ronny, Great couple of posts there mate. Can you confirm if this staff(bottom) is the same one found on your Mecanno card?
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 13, 2012 3:28 pm

Thanks for the Welcoming Very Happy I think I’ll like it here
Snaggletooth: I can’t be 100 % sure, but it looks the same
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 13, 2012 3:38 pm

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Thanks for the Welcoming Very Happy I think I’ll like it here
Snaggletooth: I can’t be 100 % sure, but it looks the same

Thanks for the fast reply Ronny, if you look down the length of your Mecanno staff does it have a round shape to the circumference or is it oval like the V1 mold?
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PostSubject: Re: Admiral Ackbar Staff ?   Admiral Ackbar Staff ? - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Feb 13, 2012 4:35 pm

Hi Ronny welcome to the forum and thanks for all the help.

It looks like the thick staff is more on the foreign cards and the thin one more on the Kenner cards.

But both sticks can be found foreign cards and kenner cards.

Thanks for killing my theory lol!


Hi Marco, no problem about the Hijack, there should be room for every questions and pictures about the ackbar staff in this thread Wink
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@snaggletooth wrote:
@RonnyA wrote:
Thanks for the Welcoming Very Happy I think I’ll like it here
Snaggletooth: I can’t be 100 % sure, but it looks the same

Thanks for the fast reply Ronny, if you look down the length of your Mecanno staff does it have a round shape to the circumference or is it oval like the V1 mold?
From what I can see, my Meccano looks like a standard V1 Staff (oval)
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