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hello, got new poch arriving soon, will share pictures with you off course. but I want to share this discover I made this morning (thanks to kenneth and wolff who brought my attention on this fig). I got this luke since one or two years now, bought it in france, it is dark haired, and I was glad to have it, but not really my favorite too. and I looked it again this morning with new eyes Smile pale hand and neck? brown spot on legs? darker pants?...melt mark in the back!!!!  :I am stupid:  cheers  cheers  cheers 
how come I never saw what I had just under the eyes? just because I bought it in france. but many people goes to spain on hollidays, I already bought pbp cardback from chilhood in france, so...anyway, here are the pictures Smile

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PostSubject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE   THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD - PART ONE - Page 37 I_icon_minitimeFri Jun 20, 2014 6:33 am

Hi Nicolas,

You all ready got my opinion by e-mail. Smile 
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I have found , in childhoods collections, 3 loose "Poch Brown Hair" Luke FB and i have seen one MOC POCH Luke FB and other 3 loose figures in friend´s collections(included one with mixed legs).

So far none of the Poch FB i was able to check and found here in Spain(100% sure) have a 3 Line COO, all of them Have 2 Line COO with large HK stamp.

Talking about the figure itself and speaking only by those picts and without having the figure in my hands:

-The Plastic on the torso and arms looks different comparing with the Poch figures i have seen.
-The hands looks darker than in the examples i saw.
-The paint on the panths looks more yellow ocre than Green.
-None of the Poch FB have the melt mark on back(with does means nothing to me)

So, if your figure is a Poch figure found by accident in France, congrats , you have an unknown and unique variant.
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Why ending your otherwise informative reply to Nicolas with this sarcastic last lines? Nicolas just believes, that he by accident has found an elusive Poch Luke Tatooine with brown hair. He hasn't exactly insulted anyone by believing so. And of course Poch figures can be located in French collections on rare occasions - just as they can be located in Germany, GB etc in childhood collections. It's rarely seen, but it occurs. Even a PBP 4-Lom was found here in Denmark in a Danish childhood collection last year.

Otherwise I'll not go into further discussion about this variant, since I have never owned a sample. But Nicolas' sample does show some traits, which at least Poch Luke Tatooine figures with yellow hair can be found with....
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Thanks my friends for those informations, you both know much more than me about poch figs, and i Am glad we share and débates about It. So i guess It is a strange figure until we CAN défine it's origine. Thanks javi for défending poch label Wink
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Thanks for the reply Kenneth but,i think you misunderstood my post. I think i haven't insult Nicolas or anybody with my post, or did I ???also i didn't felt insulted for his post BTW.

I have never  gives my opinion on the figure, you can read my post again , i never say is not Poch, i just  have put facts on the table.If you can put facts which lead me to believe this is Poch , then i will eat my words, i have no problem with that.

Of course "Poch" figures can be found around the world, the one you said and some others like ,i.e Black neck lando in France, DSC in Germany, Ig 88 in UK,PBP CCP , bossk and TFP in France, and so on...

This is not about the country in which the figure was found by accident , it is about the supposed Poch traits of the figure.
As i said before the figure have slightly(and no so slightly i.e. the COO/stamp) differences compared with examples i managged to check  in Spain,i have seen and checked a few until now,i think i can give my opinion respetfullly , or i can't??

I can of course be wrong here, i don't know the existence of all the Poch variants  , maybe the picts plays tricks on my eyes ,and if its so , i have no problem with that and , i will recognize my fault and i will apologice.

Off topic:With all of those sellers clamming theirs figures are PBP/Poch/Lili Ledy/Palitoy/Glasslite , mixing figures , buying kenner figures and flipping as a Poch ones , at least please let me  keep esceptic with the figures i see or bought. Not everything which comes from Spain lately , are Pbp/POch figures , i guess you already realized .  

Maybe you have seen the supposted  "Poch Luke FB" which the wattoshop listed on ebay lately ?? the figure had melt mark as well but the overall look was totally wrong and the felt to me was NOT Poch(hands , hair plastic etc)

Just to be cristal clear here,there is no double sense in my last post or in any of my preceding phrases or in the following ones, this is not a warning or anything similar i just would love you for reading my words literally,i have nothing against you or Nicolas.

Here you are a Pict of Poch luke blond haired along with the dark brown .Please note that both have similar paint scheme and plastics
I hope this helps

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don't know if that helps to identify the figure, but the colours might have been slightly altered since I tryed to "cleaned" it with oxyned water when I received it two years ago because it had some brown spot. here are the pictures about how it looked exactly at that time. thanks anyway for your opinion javi and sharing your experiences and picture, and to kenneth for your support.
then I have 2 questions: how many of you has a similar brown luke farmboy 3 lines? If it is not poch, what can it be? thanks

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:scratch: :scratch: :scratch: :scratch: :scratch: :scratch: :scratch: :scratch: 
So, what you have there, was a original but discolored figure which was later "Cleaned/bleached" with peroxide which now looks like Poch??  :scratch:  :scratch: 
Come on Nicolas !!you had to say that before you post the first picts!!I guess you didn't know two years ago that the peroxide may alter the original paint colors  and not just the plastics.
Seriously , no words(no double sense here either)


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Javi,

Seems like I was wrong here regarding the last part of your reply to Nicolas, since Nicolas didn't pay attention to that either. An apology to you is hereby given! Smile 
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No problem Kenneth, thanks
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@javiswspain wrote:
:scratch: :scratch: :scratch: :scratch: :scratch: :scratch: :scratch: :scratch: 
So, what you have there, was a original discolored figure which was then "Cleaned/whited" with peroxide which now looks like Poch??  :scratch:  :scratch: 
Come on Nicolas !!you had to say that before you post the first picts!!I guess you didn't know two years ago that the peroxide may alter the original paint colors  and not just the plastics.
Seriously , no words(no double sense here either)

100 % agreed here! It would have been a very useful piece of information from the beginning...
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lol! lol! lol! cheers 
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cheers U got mail...
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How do you know It was discolored before Washing? To me there is no différence in the Colors except the pant witch is a Little less Green. No change about hands and neck
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....Nicolas...I hope you mention peroxide treating when you sell figures?? This is really important to a lot of people.....I i.e. would never buy one figure treated like that ever....


So Javi and Kenneth have already settled this.....GREAT


I want to say sth too here. No matter if it can be called a "real" Poch variant or not...or if its bleached in some way.....the following is a fact:

1. The head is darkbrown. The mold of the head belongs to the large HK family

2. The legs are three line family....obviously...  Razz 

3. I havent checked for torso or arms.

So conclusion is:

a) Someone has swapped limbs/head etc on this

or b) It comes from a factory that was able to mix up two totally different mold-families. And this was only possible in Spain and maye in Uk were the last parts in the late days were collected, assembled and wildly mixed up....

BUT: I have never seen that combination so I am pretty damn sure this comes originally from Spain. Another Frankenstein....

I can see Javi's concerns if we are saying: This is a Poch variant....we have no MOC, it is mixed up...it was found in France....etc

I personally do believe it came from Spain but I am not sure what to call it. LOL...an interesting piece...maybe we all can agree on this??

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To add: I think even the head of the brown Luke might be directly imported from an Asian factory.
Making this a hybrid figure (Class II) anyway. Or Frankenstein figure as Wolff like to coin them, a term which I quite like BTW.

Something written about a year ago, which still makes sense IMO:

https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t4427p465-the-poch-pbp-guide-discussion-thread#95812

@Dr Dengar wrote:
Below you see an interesting Luke Farmboy line-up.

From left to right:
1) Kenner, COO #1 (2 line HK), brown hair
2) Figure from Spain, COO #1 (2 line HK), brown hair
3) Confirmed POCH, COO #6 (3 line HK), blond hair

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The figure in the middle is interesting and has a lot of POCH characteristics in common with the confirmed POCH Luke on the right:
- Pale hands
- Pale neck
- Greenish brown boots.

BTW: The same greenish brown boots can also be seen on the two Spanish Leia Hoth figures (one confirmed and one assumed POCH).

From left to right: 1. Leia (Kenner). 2. Leia (from Spain). 3. POCH Leia. 4. POCH Luke (not a DT saber BTW, just a broken tip Very Happy).
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But there are also some clear differences between the middle figure and the POCH Luke on the right.....

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First the different COO. (2 line HK vs 3 line HK). How to explain that?  unsure

Actually it makes sense assuming PBP imported unpainted overstock from Asia from different factories. Each factory used their own pair of molds marked with their own COOs. Eventually plastic parts originating from different Asian factories got mixed up in the PBP factory and after painting these were welded into complete figures.
This would explain why some POCH figures can appear with two different HK COOs on different figures (sometimes even on the same figure). Luke Farmboy would not be the only example. Think Leia Hoth, and Jawa which were discussed before.


The second and most obvious difference is off course the head, which looks totally different (brown vs blond hair and different facial details, plastic).
Is this a POCH head, like the blond head?

Probably not! Take a look at the head of the Kenner figure on the left. Dark hair colour, facial details, even the mark on the left of the head (probably a mold defect), it all matches!
Probably this head was already painted in Asia before being exported as overstock to PBP. That’s why it has Kenner characteristics and not POCH characteristics. During the welding process this head was assembled with parts that (assumption!) were painted in house (arms, torso, legs, all with POCH traits) to end up in this Class II PBP figure (‘hybrid POCH’).

Kenner (left), Spanish (right).
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OK, time for a wrap up:  Very Happy
To me it seems that the brown hair Spanish Luke is a Class II PBP figure, having features of Kenner (head) and POCH (the rest).

What's more::
1) Assuming that the 2 line HK COO parts were present and painted in the PBP factory, I can imagine that there also exists a blond POCH Luke with this COO. Time will tell.  Very Happy
2) This is not a one of a kind figure. A very similar figure was offered for sale on a Spanish website about a year ago. It was offered at that time with the original cardback, a 41A back.
3) It appears that the 41A backs were not only used for the Class I (pure POCH) figures. At least in case of this brown hair Luke, it seems that Class II figures (hybrid POCH) could also be packed on these early cards (and not first on 41B/C cards).

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I wouldn't be surprised when the POCH brown Luke FB can also occur with the 3-line COO, assuming POCH imported parts from different factories, which got mixed up.

@ackbar100 wrote:
Apologize if I break this interesting and smooth conversation about the rebel soldier.

I have been requested to post those pictures here about my luke brown hair. In my opinion this figue has a lot of interesting features.

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see you soon  Very Happy



@Dr Dengar wrote:

Hi Ackbar,

Thank you so much for posting pics of your Spanish brown hair Luke Farmboy.  Very Happy

The figure looks the same as the one in my collection. Brown hair head, pale hands, pale neck, greenish boots. CHECK, CHECK, CHECK, CHECK!  cheers

The COO is dfferent (3-line instead of 2-line). Not a big surprise, assuming POCH imported unpainted parts from different Asian factories, corresponding to different steel moulds (and thus COOs). BTW: My POCH blond Luke has the 3-line COO.

The brown hair head does not look very POCH to me, the paint mask is clearly different from the POCH blond Luke. Instead the head looks like some dark brown hair Kenner figures, including the mould deformation on the right side of the head.

Does your figure also has this mould deformation on the right side?


@ackbar100 wrote:




here you are. It could be that, in the same way than the leg, the head might be a kenner one.....

I hope this helps to clarify. Figure was bought in a street market here in Spain.

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@wbobafett wrote:
....Nicolas...I hope you mention peroxide treating when you sell figures?? This is really important to a lot of people.....I i.e. would never buy one figure treated like that ever....


So Javi and Kenneth have already settled this.....GREAT


I want to say sth too here. No matter if it can be called a "real" Poch variant or not...or if its bleached in some way.....the following is a fact:

1. The head is darkbrown. The mold of the head belongs to the large HK family

2. The legs are three line family....obviously...  Razz 

3. I havent checked for torso or arms.

So conclusion is:

a) Someone has swapped limbs/head etc on this

or b) It comes from a factory that was able to mix up two totally different  mold-families. And this was only possible in Spain and maye in Uk were the last parts in the late days were collected, assembled and wildly mixed up....

BUT: I have never seen that combination so I am pretty damn sure this comes originally from Spain. Another Frankenstein....

I can see Javi's concerns if we are saying: This is a Poch variant....we have no MOC, it is mixed up...it was found in France....etc

I personally do believe it came from Spain but I am not sure what to call it. LOL...an interesting piece...maybe we all can agree on this??

Peace

Wolff

Good point Wolff, but i am still talking about paint scheme and apliccation differences in order to tell a Kenner figure from a Poch one.
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Leaving apart the fact of bleaching of the figure, i can see pretty good paint apliccation  on the belt of Nicolas figure, while in the figures i have found here, looks more according with the overall low quality of common Poch figures
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Ricardo was kind enough of sending his brown haired luke to my home for a proper checking, thanks for that my friend Wink
In my opinion the figure have mixed parts as it was said before.THe plastic of the face still lighter than in Nicolas example and more according with others FB found in Spain, while the one from Nicolas is more close to the Kenner example.Maybe Poch imported two different batch of Brown haired head? i don't know ,but the lighter one seems to be the most common on the spanish market.
And again please take in account the thickness of the belt , which in the spanish FB figures is slim and bad painted.

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Well....I still do believe that also "painted (Asian) overstock" was used in the progress...for a limited timeframe at least.

This would explain the painted belt.

I also have to add: I have about 10 darkbrown Lukes at the moment here (kenner of course)....most of those are very poorly painted comparing to standard yellow ones...


Anyway....I totally agree with you that it is probably mixed up also with "foreign" parts.

I need to picture mine soon.....another crazy Frankenstein..... Razz Razz
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@javiswspain wrote:

Maybe you have seen the supposted  "Poch Luke FB" which the wattoshop listed on ebay lately ?? the figure had melt mark as well but the overall look was totally wrong and the felt to me was NOT Poch(hands , hair plastic etc)


Hi Javi, I also noticed this figure and was not sure either. I decided to buy him off ebay (nobody had placed a bid anyway) for the purpose of comparing with two confirmed POCH Luke Farmboy figures.

See the pics below. From left to right:
1. Blond Luke FB. 3-line COO. Bought from a Spanish ebay source
2. Confirmed POCH Luke FB. 3-line COO.
3. Confirmed POCH Luke FB. 3-line COO.

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OBSERVATIONS:

Similarities between the left Luke and the POCH figures:

  • Pale hands,
  • Pale neck
  • Greenish Trousers
  • Yellow hair paint


Differences

  • The head is cast in a more pinkish plastic compared to the POCH figures which are cast in a paler plastic
  • EDIT: The eyes and eyebrows are black instead of brown


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Note: Judgded from the shapes of the eyes and the eye brows, it seems to me that the same spray mask was used for all three figures.
Need some input here though, not sure about it.

Cheers


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I was asked by a buddy regarding this Luke Farmboy. The missing "raised eyebrow" made me wonder too!

"Do not buy" was my suggestion!

I guess head is mixed up on that one! Kenner can also have the raised eyebrow...but on a "true" Poch it is a must IMO....am I wrong??
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Hey Wolff, I know about the raised left eye brow feature as it is mentioned on your site.

But can you pls visualize what you exactly mean with that, still it is not too clear to me.
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Javi and I discussed the blonde Luke at the left via Skype last weekend.

Apart from the pinkish vs pale head also the paint of the eyes and eye browns is different: black vs brown. You can see that very clearly on the pics.
Verdict: the head looks Kenner painted not POCH painted.  

So, like Wolff suggested, maybe best to classify this figure as a POCH Hybrid figure.  
Not a disappointment at all honestly, as this figure looks pretty cool next to his POCH dark brown hybrid brother and 'pure' POCH brothers. Very Happy

Probably many different Kenner painted parts were laying around in the PBP factory: blond heads, brown heads..
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Simple question, is it due to POCHs low quality standards or were Spanish kids rough with there toys? The reason I ask is I rarely see what I would consider mint POCH figures, do they exist?

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