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PostSubject: Re: Main Site help needed: Leia Organa Vinyl Capes - Taiwan & No coo    Main Site help needed: Leia Organa Vinyl Capes - Taiwan & No coo  - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 25, 2016 2:45 pm

@jackaroni

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@jackaroni

I would NOT conclude it as a fake yet.


Agree. Hang on to it until more research is made.


LORD HENDRICUS wrote:
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As for the zipping sound. I have had 3 HK capes and they all made zipping sound.

I have one HK cape and can confirm it makes the zipping sound.

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PostSubject: Re: Main Site help needed: Leia Organa Vinyl Capes - Taiwan & No coo    Main Site help needed: Leia Organa Vinyl Capes - Taiwan & No coo  - Page 2 I_icon_minitimeMon Jan 25, 2016 3:44 pm

I'd already posted my TW Leia elsewhere on the site so can copy it here direct for you to see,

from https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t4176-the-tig-fotw-thread-princess-leia

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Taiwan Leia

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Quickly went through my Leia's, let me know if you need anymore pics?...

Group shot, 1 to 4 on the top row, left to right. 5 to 7 on the bottom row left to right.

Don't ask why some pics are rotated by 90 degrees, my image hoster is playing the silly bugger!!

The only two capes I have which make zipping noises are the MADE IN HONG KONG and MADE IN TAIWAN, all the other including the POCH are smooth.

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1. Family VI-1 - Hong Kong (Kenner)

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2. Family III-2 - No COO (Glasslite)

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3. Family I-1 - Hong Kong (Kenner)

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4. Family V -Made In Taiwan (Kenner)

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5. Family IV-2 - No COO (Kenner)

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6. Family II - Made In Hong Kong (Kenner)

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7. Family II - Made In Hong Kong (POCH)

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My only comment is that over the years I've sold dozens of capes. Really the MOCs are the only way to look for consistency

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Walkie, thanks a ton for posting these "pics"! When I compare them to my cape, feel free to reference the pics I posted earlier in this thread, I noticed the following:

I definitely have the "family" or "type II" - 1A with the . above the "K" in Kong.

The total length (8.5mm) and width of cape at bottom (5.9mm) almost exactly match the distances shown in your pic by the ruler.

Likewise, when I extrapolate your ruler in the pic to a piece of paper - old school paper map distance method, the measurements match my cape almost exactly at: 1. The width just below the armhole (5mm) and 2. The length from the top of the armholes to the top of the cape (1.7mm) and 3. the armhole diameter (5.5mm) depending on stretch.

Also, the tip corners match with one a little convex and one a little concave. Most repro's that I have seen in my limited observations have both tips flaring out on each side.

The cape in general has (1) glossy side and (1) satin side. The weight does seem slightly thinner than my authentic vader and ben cape but not by much. The feel seems correct.

The texture under magnification matches the smooth side of my vader and ben cape just without the linear striations either vertically or horizontally, although I am not convinced this is not a function of my 43 + year old eyes on a white cape.

Likewise, neither side has the fine cross-hatch pattern both vader and ben have; thus, no "zip".

However, I really think this thing might be authentic and I am leaning towards a HONG KONG cape now since both sides aren't satin and I have no horizontal lines, maybe Hong Kong forgot to stimple one side on this roll of material with the cross hatch pattern - wishful thinking anyway.

Thank you all for this thread it has been most informative!!!!!
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