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PostSubject: ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis...   ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis... I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 07, 2013 11:52 am

I can usually figure out different variants from researching older threads but I have alot of difficulty with Snowtroopers sometimes . I received this Snowtrooper in a small lot the other day and was surprised by it being a no coo / hard torso variant .
I can't tell which coo it is so I took a couple pics at different angles to try to show it the best I could . I am pretty sure that it would be considered a "hard torso" but it also looks to me like the limbs are made of hard plastic too - they are very stiff and hard (insert your own joke) and the LFL 1980 is very defined print .
The best I can ever seem to figure out on these variants is that they might be Tri Logo , PBP or YPS . This figure came with a cape that has holes instead of slits which I know is known to have come with YPS but he has a standard gun and not the GI JOe gun . If I remember right not all YPS had the funky gun and the round hole capes weren't exclusive to YPS - so basically neither accessory nails him down to a particular variant .
Any help will be greatly appreciated Very Happy

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I appologize for the poor quality of my pics but hopefully they are decent enough that he can be Identified - Thank you in advance What a Face

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PostSubject: Re: ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis...   ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis... I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 07, 2013 12:53 pm

Thank You - I was thinking the same - either #4 or one of the unlabled coo's at the bottom - top row 3rd from the left ?

I would like to know if it has a particular origin or what variation it is considered - is it just a generic Tri Logo type release or would he be considered something a little more speacial ?
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PostSubject: Re: ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis...   ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis... I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 07, 2013 1:48 pm


I would call it an European variant, released on Tri and PBP cards, other cards as well?

There is an avalanche of different scars available as indicated in the COO guide.

Cool variant.
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Thank you Marcobi Wan Kenobi !! Any idea of a fair market vaule on him ?
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PostSubject: Re: ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis...   ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis... I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 07, 2013 2:05 pm



He seems in a very good condition, maybe $40-45 range?

Let's see what the others think.



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oh yeah - he's in very nice condition - I doubt that he was played with much (if at all) . Joints are tight , paint is nice and he looks whiter in person than the pics . He does seem to have that weird white color that most of the Hard torso varinats seem to have - not sure what to call it - Bone White , Ivory white ?? seems like I have seen a term somewhere before used to describe the color ... I guess it could just be discoloration too but I am pretty sure the color is common with the hard torsos and have heard talk about it before unsure
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PostSubject: Re: ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis...   ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis... I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 07, 2013 3:00 pm

I'd say Marco is pretty much on the money with his valuation.

That really is a nice example James. You're right about the colour, the hard torso is distictly different in appearance to the standard ones.
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Thank You Cantina Patron (Steve? - sorry I am trying really hard to learn everyones real names still - I seem to have a small problem with "short term memory loss" :bong: )

Is it standard for Hard Torso figures to have Hard Limbs too ? or can they be found mix matched ?
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PostSubject: Re: ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis...   ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis... I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 07, 2013 3:24 pm

@ourchickenshack wrote:
Thank You Cantina Patron (Steve? - sorry I am trying really hard to learn everyones real names still - I seem to have a small problem with "short term memory loss" :bong: )

Is it standard for Hard Torso figures to have Hard Limbs too ? or can they be found mix matched ?

You've got my name right Wink

I have examples of both, although I've found the hard torso with soft limbs to be more common.
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PostSubject: Re: ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis...   ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis... I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 07, 2013 4:12 pm

For what it's worth here's one of my Snowtroopers, it also has the same hard torso, circle holes in the cape and COO 4 (although more like the one from the bottom right corner where the bottom of the '8' is missing)
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Interestingly though, I got mine from a local auction which was from a guaranteed British childhood collection, I know they were available elsewhere in Europe, but thought I'd mention it anyway.
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very cool General Kahn What a Face Yours is almost identical to mine - I have terrible eyesight and need glasses badly but , the best I can see , the only difference is the little bit of the 8 missing on your coo .
I am probably wrong but I have read/heard somewhere that the Tri Logos were sold all over the world - maby this explains why I have found one here in the states and you have found yours in Britan ? Seems like you can find all sorts of strange variants in Tri Logo packages unsure
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I am probably wrong but I have read/heard somewhere that the Tri Logos were sold all over the world

Tri-Logo's were distributed widely in Europe in an official sense, however when production stopped General Mills (the over all govening body) had all overstock shipped to the U.S. where it ended up in stores like Kaybee at discount prices, so all though Tri-Logo's where never released in the U.S. many did ultimately end up there.

Joe's explains it better! Check out his site:
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Hope this helps chief.
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Heck I click this to wonder along side of you...but no picture Sad ya I like the books with pictures.
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[quote="SithLord2013"]Heck I click this to wonder along side of you...but no picture Sad ya I like the books with pictures.[/quote

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PostSubject: Subject: Re: ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed    ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis... I_icon_minitimeMon Apr 22, 2013 4:57 pm

I have the exact Snowtrooper that I just got in the mail, same coo markings, but is a wee bit shorter than a HK kenner. Is it Tri-Logo, PBP, or YPS. Even has cape with holes, shiny and dull side, and standard Kenner rifle. Which is mine?
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PostSubject: Re: ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis...   ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis... I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 23, 2013 12:29 am

Hey Jason,

I have just seen your thread about your Snowtrooper on RS.

http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1097287/

Looks like an European variant to me.

The figure probably only looks smaller because of its wide stance.

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PostSubject: Subject: Re: ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis   ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis... I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 23, 2013 12:38 am

@Dr Dengar wrote:
Hey Jason,

I have just seen your thread about your Snowtrooper on RS.

http://forum.rebelscum.com/t1097287/

Looks like an European variant to me.

The figure probably only looks smaller because of its wide stance.

Cheers

Not sure what a European variant it is. It even has a shorter looking head, and helmet is a little flatter on top then the HK Kenner.

Thank you.
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IMO made by PBP and this COO is found on Palitoy ROTJ cards and probibly other euro cards to Cool
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PostSubject: Re: ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis...   ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis... I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 23, 2013 4:11 am

Looks like one of the new Mark Poon snowtroppers to me, they have just hit the market :buzzing: :drumroll: meeting
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PostSubject: Re: ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis...   ID Help on a Snowtrooper needed ... help me Obi Wan Kenobis... I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 23, 2013 4:26 am

Aussie Fortuna wrote:
Looks like one of the new Mark Poon snowtroppers to me, they have just hit the market :buzzing: :drumroll: meeting

Really??, if so i'll give it a week before we see blue ones!!

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@walkie wrote:
Aussie Fortuna wrote:
Looks like one of the new Mark Poon snowtroppers to me, they have just hit the market :buzzing: :drumroll: meeting

Really??, if so i'll give it a week before we see blue ones!!

Hahaha, no i was just joking :cool laugh: , but there is a guy that does the bluestars on a custom cardback, i think he does headman too and a few other uzays.
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doh you got me, yeah I've seen the fake uzay's, there just painted beaters at the moment so they're easy to spot.

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