Steve, here are the pictures of my LL GG's.  They all have brown tips on the forehead helmet piece.  1 of the 3 have the mark in the oval on the bottom of the foot.  I can't say that it is a #1, when I look at it under the magnifying glass, it looks more like a blobbed line.

Thank you for your assistance Clint!

Holy Sh..t!!..
I found something really interesting and I will say a major breakthrough when it comes to the iconic Lili ledy Removable Rocket Boba Fett......
I've been doing a lot of research and I have found nothing about it.... so I guess Im one of the first ones to notice
Here we have one LL RRBF vs a one LL FRBF....
Lets see how long does it takes you to find that amazing find.......
Btw.....I  find this while drinking in a bar in Mexico City  with some of my fellow star wars collectors and at the beggining everybody thought I was crazy or drunk... SPECIAL THANKS TO MY GOOD FRIEND LEO AND MY SAMSUNG S4 CAMARA....sorry but iphones can't match Samsung's! (But thats another story)
I need to do some more research but Im sure This will be a TIG exclusive premier...
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Here is a better pic....ENJOY!!!!....



Havent found anything about it anywhere...really interesting!!!!

 

There seems to be the letter L inside the rocket pack.
Did i win..  

M4K3R1 wrote:

There seems to be the letter L inside the rocket pack.
Did i win..  

BINGO!!....very well done!
Exactly. ..there is a letter "L" inside the rocket pack...
I have to do more research about it!..

Hey Adolfo, that is a nice discovery. You must have made a lot of impression on the girls in the bar!   

I am not aware whether it has been described before.

Question is whether this L is also tpresent in Kenner figures.  I would expect so, cause the Ledy Fett was not cast from an Ledy exclusive steel mould. But who knows?

Who likes to cut open a beater HK Fett and check for a L (or other letter)?

Cheers

Marco

Actually some people have already done this.  I remember a while back that Stefan had a fett he had broken open to look at the rocket tab to see if it was present.  I think Alex has a trilogo that the rocket comes out on and may have a Taiwan also.  That would cover those versions.  Then we just need to see if they are present on regular ledy fetts also, which they should be right?  Wasn't the removable rocket just that the rocket was put in after the sonic welding and then they started sonic welding them?

Looking at the ones Ozio has in the special report section I think they both have it.
https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t5523p180-the-lili-ledy-guide-discussion-thread-part-2#RRBobaFett

Dr Dengar wrote:

Hey Adolfo, that is a nice discovery. You must have made a lot of impression on the girls in the bar!   

I am not aware whether it has been described before.

Question is whether this L is also tpresent in Kenner figures.  I would expect so, cause the Ledy Fett was not cast from an Ledy exclusive steel mould. But who knows?

Who likes to cut open a beater HK Fett and check for a L (or other letter)?

Cheers

Marco

Will do some research about that.... for now I havent seen anywhere that some info like that has ever been posted...
I post several pics doing  a photo comparison long time ago in here ( 2 LLRRBF vs 1 LLFRBF) and also I did a video of how does a LL RRBF " clicks"  like 2 years ago ... but never noticed that "L" .. I just read Ozio special report about the LL RRBF that has a video similar than mine ( but Ozio has better quality)  and it doesnt say anything about that "L" and like trappedtexan says, it looks that they had also the  "L" in there...this is quite interesting..
Here are some pics  but the angles are not correct SO you cant see anything   



4 LL BF´s ( 2 RR , 1 FR , 1 Carded) vs 1 HK BF.

Hey fellas need help on id'ing this 3po

Your 3PO is a Ledy 2 line coo with a dull gold finish.

There is a guide to Ledy 3PO's in part 1 of this thread.

Here's the link: https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t2135-the-lili-ledy-guide-discussion-thread-part-1

Thanks for the info buddy. I was reading the guide but I think I got confused with the regular 3po and the removable limbs version that's reason I could not pin point what it was.

No problem Albert.   

Here are some pics of the IV.1a coo Ledy hybrid figure, that I showed in the latest acquisitions thread.
At first i thought it might be a possible custom or repair job, but after contacting Oscar and Wolff about this figure, i learned that Oscar has two of this variant in his collection and Wolff has one also, so that ruled out the boil and pop theory.

Here is what I have found out about the figure so far from speaking to Oscar, Wolff and Ozio.

One theory I had, was that, perhaps this was an early Ledy figure, from before the coo was altered. Also that it might be possible that the later Ledy, altered coos, had a different head sculpt due to factory error or damage, possibly caused by wear, to the head mould. Resulting in the raised/enlarged mouth detail. I asked if this theory was possible, or whether it was a completely different head, from a Kenner mould?
Although It was considered a Ledy figure, it was thought that the early Ledy theory was an unlikely one:

Oscar wrote

Oscar wrote:

I have asked a few collectors and all they agree on is that it is a ledy figure.
I have seen this figure on ROTJ77 backs which have the anakin sticker offer,
nearly all of these 77 backs have a ledy figure inside with a ledy saber,
so i am assuming they were made for the US market.
Because it has the anakin offer sticker on the back of the card it is hard to see if it is a made in mexico card,
but every thing does match that it would be a MIM card.
I have always put this figure down to a LL figure which can found on US 77 backs with the anakin offer.

Wolff also thought that this was the most likely explanation, concerning the difference in head sculpts, but did agree that the unique head sculpt of Ledy figures could be due to factory error/damaged moulds:

Wolff wrote:

I can see were you a coming from: All my four Vaders (both no coos and both HKs) have the same thumb, and obviously this is only logical. Regarding the steelmolds were never changed the mold must be the same, even if used from Kenner before in the Asian factories.

BUT I can see the differences on the head sculpts. The question is if these protruding mouth corners are some kind of factory error. We all know Taiwan i.e. has those two but I have seen TWs without that or with only one mouth piece....Anyway I have 3 with BOTH mouth pieces protruding and one (HK) with none of them protruding :scratch: Need to think about that...hmmm....

 
IF different molds it could be from the MIM Kenner cards time, where lots of Mexican overstock was sent to the US for packaging. It could be they also had sent some unassembled Vaders that wildley got mixed up ?!?!? Maybe this also would explain the appearance on a late 77back??

In another conversation Oscar wrote:

Oscar wrote:

Kenner head, paired up with the LL arms and legs and torso, to me suggests a late figure where they just wanted to use up any remaining left over parts. That could be why they show up on 77 backs. LL must have filled an order to the US at some stage, which is probably why there are made in mexico 77 backs with the US anakin offer MOC. There's a lot of them.
Its not unusual to have a coo figure, that can be found with different combinations of parts.
For example i noticed when i was going through mine, there was a Made in Hong Kong coo with the big Clipper feet.
I thought that was odd, but to me means that different factories must have sourced a range of parts from other factories to fill their orders. That's just the way i see it.

so it looks as though the fact that there are a lot of the ROTJ 77b "anakin Offer" cards out there, the general opinion from everyone is that, old Ledy overstock parts were shipped to the U.S for assembly and packaging, to meet high order demands. These parts were presumably then chucked in a storage bin with Kenner parts, and so got mixed up.

Ozio helped to confirm things:

Ozio wrote:

From the pics you sent me I see a LL vader, chest, arms and legs, I've found both glossy and matte finish on them and mixed glossy and matte limbs too. The paint looks LL to me.
The accessories for this figure must be a regular LL red saber and LL cape. I don't know if there's a carded LL or MIM vader with kenner accessories but I haven't had one in my hands. All the MIM LL vaders I've had came with LL accessories.
That head looks off as you said.......I would go with Wolffs theory.

I hope the guys don't mind me quoting them publicly, from PM's, but it was just easier to quote, than to summarise in my own words  

So that's the general theory so far, but if anyone knows of any other info on these figures then please do chime in   

@Marco, your photos are down again, not sure if you've noticed?

Hey Stef, I noticed it too. Same bandwidth issues as in August.

https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t6138-all-my-pictures-are-gone-working-on-it

At Feb 3rd the bandwidth will be resetted and everything will be normal. Hang on!

Just curious what causes so much bandwidth usage this month?   

Do the admin team have any web-tools to view the site usage? maybe give an indication of the most popular threads etc?

John has a Google Analytics account, not sure whether you can see traffic per thread this way.

Lili Ledy C-3PO Dull Silver Variant

I'd like a second opinion on this figure please guys. I purchased this as a Dull Silver Lili Ledy variant, but now I have it in hand I can swear I can see a hint of gold in the chrome. Having not see one of these in the flesh before, yet previously owning a part faded gold/silver one I was wondering what other people thought who have one of these variants?

Should this variant be a true silver colour, light gold or a uncoloured one*.
(My understanding of the vac-chrome process is that aluminium is first applied (silver in colour) then a yellow/gold varnish is applied afterwards)

I've taken some comparision photos, showing a two kenner figures. A light gold removable limbs (on the left) and a light gold fixed limbs (on the right)

C-3PO: Kenner (Rem Limbs) / Lili Ledy / Kenner


C-3PO: Kenner (Rem Limbs) / Lili Ledy / Kenner


C-3PO: Kenner (Rem Limbs) / Lili Ledy / Kenner


C-3PO: Kenner (Rem Limbs) / Lili Ledy / Kenner


C-3PO: Lili Ledy


Thanks in advance

Dr Dengar wrote:

Just curious what causes so much bandwidth usage this month?   

someone on facebook linking to all your useful guides   

aussiejames wrote:

Dr Dengar wrote:

Just curious what causes so much bandwidth usage this month?   

someone on facebook linking to all your useful guides   

Does this person have permission?

How is the linking been done? to the main LL guide front page or to each figure entry?

Do I need permission?   
Just trying to educate the fucktards that say oh it might be POCH, might be Ledy- they have no clue.
I'm not sure if it's me but I'll post a pic & then link to a thread.

aussiejames wrote:

Do I need permission?   
Just trying to educate the fucktards that say oh it might be POCH, might be Ledy- they have no clue.
I'm not sure if it's me but I'll post a pic & then link to a thread.

Sorry AJ I didn't realise it was you. Top marks for trying to educate the uneducated.

I haven't seen this facebook page, as I'm a bit of a facebook hater   I do have an account but only tend to log in once every 6 months if I have too.

walkie wrote:

Lili Ledy C-3PO Dull Silver Variant

I'd like a second opinion on this figure please guys. I purchased this as a Dull Silver Lili Ledy variant, but now I have it in hand I can swear I can see a hint of gold in the chrome. Having not see one of these in the flesh before, yet previously owning a part faded gold/silver one I was wondering what other people thought who have one of these variants?

Should this variant be a true silver colour, light gold or a uncoloured one*.
(My understanding of the vac-chrome process is that aluminium is first applied (silver in colour) then a yellow/gold varnish is applied afterwards)

I've taken some comparision photos, showing a two kenner figures. A light gold removable limbs (on the left) and a light gold fixed limbs (on the right)

C-3PO: Kenner (Rem Limbs) / Lili Ledy / Kenner


C-3PO: Kenner (Rem Limbs) / Lili Ledy / Kenner


C-3PO: Kenner (Rem Limbs) / Lili Ledy / Kenner


C-3PO: Kenner (Rem Limbs) / Lili Ledy / Kenner


C-3PO: Lili Ledy


Thanks in advance

Hi,
On my experience there's no silver LL 3PO, there's always a bit of gold somewhere if you look closer.