Great work Patrick   

Thanks for sharing Alex and Patrick.
Some great research from both of you.

Nien Nunb: Can the left tumb also be used as a distinctive feature?



https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t2135p375-the-lili-ledy-guide-discussion-thread-part-1#Nien Nunb

Sorry for this late reply ...

Marco seems to be right on this. Also my Ledy-Nunb has a larger left thumb. I will add this to my Nunb post asap.

Thanks Marco, much appreciated!

You are very welcome, Patrick.

Happy that I can contribute something small (a thumb) to this great research.   

Updated my Nien Nunb and AT-AT Driver posts:

Nien Nunb: Comparison shot of left thumbs added, thanks Marco.

AT-AT Driver: Missing COO and marking for groove near mouth added. Additional picture with head grooves and shoulder differences, markings for bigger dot and rectangle on the back and markings for different circles on the sides added, thanks AJ.

wow...some heavy updates....well done Alex and Patrick.

I just have one question....where is Bossk family #4???   

*duck*

Cheers for the update Patrick   

@wbobafett wrote:

I just have one question....where is Bossk family #4

I've been waiting for that   

I don't have one, and when I did the original sheet it was a while ago and I wasn't sure there even was one.

What is the situation wih the COO IV? It looks like tere is the 'scuffing' like a couple of the removed COO's have? Is it altered?

Excellent additions Patrick.  

@General Kahn wrote:

Cheers for the update Patrick   

@wbobafett wrote:

I just have one question....where is Bossk family #4

I've been waiting for that   

I don't have one, and when I did the original sheet it was a while ago and I wasn't sure there even was one.

What is the situation wih the COO IV? It looks like tere is the 'scuffing' like a couple of the removed COO's have? Is it altered?

It is altered....but never was produced as unaltered (HK). There is a few more altered ones that never were "released" with the original stamp as you know best....LOL

Thanks for the kind words Wolff, Alex and Steve. I'm glad you like the updates.

Next to be added is the AT-ST Driver ...

Cheers for the update Patrick, I'm not entirely sure about the AT-ST Driver though, it's one that I have looked at in the past and that crease was the one thing that flared up, however I have Taiwan figures with both styles of crease, infact I have two Taiwan and one no COO and all look slightly different. I couldn't decide so put him a side.

I'll post some pics up tomorrow, see what you think.  :scratch: 

Thanks for your reply Alex. To be honest I have just the two pictured AT-ST Drivers   

So as not to draw false conclusions I've done a bit of an investigation before I posted this sheet. I've looked at other AT-ST Drivers on the web and compared their creases. I'm convinced that all of them fit in with my assumption. But there is a little difficulty in determining whether it's the smaller or the larger crease because of the black paint from the belt. It seems that sometimes the black paint is also applied a bit above the belt and therefore it looks like the crease is smaller than it actually is.

But maybe my eyes are deceiving me and I'm wrong ... I'm looking forward to seeing your pics!

Foot peg holes...

the Peg holes it is....but I also would love to find a difference from the front....without color or PEG holes because we would need this for identifying the belonging weapon molds!!

I am happy Patrick found one...I gave up after staring hours and hours on thos ATST Drivers    

...but is this enough to identify a MOC one??

@aussiejames wrote:

Foot peg holes...

@wbobafett wrote:

the Peg holes it is....but I also would love to find a difference from the front....without color or PEG holes because we would need this for identifying the belonging weapon molds!!

I am happy Patrick found one...I gave up after staring hours and hours on thos ATST Drivers  

...but is this enough to identify a MOC one??

You're right James, the peg holes are different too and I will add a pic to my sheet. Thanks for this input.

Woff, I hope this crease is enough do distinguish them also when they're MOC.


Had a quick look on ebay and found currently 9 AT-ST Drivers MOC:

4 of them have the small crease (which should indicate they are Taiwan ones) on a POTF card with marking TJ (Taiwan) (one of them seem to have the fat blaster the others I can't see)

2 of them have the large crease (which should indicate they are No COO ones) on a ROTJ card with marking HT (Hong Kong) (one of them seem to have the thin blaster the other I can't see)

1 of them has the small crease (which should indicate he is a Taiwan one) on a ROTJ card with marking TJ (Taiwan) (he seems to have the fat blaster but I'm not quite sure)

1 of them is on a ROTJ Card but the pic is crappy

1 of them has the small crease (which should indicate he is a Taiwan one) but is on a Made in Hong Kong Trilogo card (should not be overrated as Trilogos sometimes don't have the stated figures on them COO-wise, also accessories can be mixed up on them)

Excellent work Patrick.

@pattejan wrote:

1 of them has the small crease (which should indicate he is a Taiwan one) but is on a Made in Hong Kong Trilogo card (should not be overrated as Trilogos sometimes don't have the stated figures on them COO-wise, also accessories can be mixed up on them)

We have 3 more examples of Taiwan AT-ST Drivers on Hong Kong Tri-Logo cards in this thread: https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t6779-endor-blaster-pistol-wg-20
AJ also has one. Interestingly all 4 have the correct 'fat' blaster.

Could be a pattern ...

I can't tell it from the pictures if each AT-ST Driver from this thread fit in with my assumption but the following do:

Commander Clint's Canadian AT-ST Driver with Taiwan COO has the small crease.

Section 8's AT ST Driver found for sale on SWFUK with Taiwan COO on a Hong Kong Trilogo card has the samll crease.


The other two Trilogo ones I'm not sure about ...



If anyone can prove or disprove my small/large crease assumption that would be great. So come on guys check your AT-ST Drivers!


Btw I've edited my sheet and added the pegholes pic!

@pattejan wrote:

Could be a pattern ...

I've got an idea about that, but I want to do some more checking first.   

@pattejan wrote:

Section 8's AT ST Driver found for sale on SWFUK with Taiwan COO on a Hong Kong Trilogo card has the samll crease.

The other two Trilogo ones I'm not sure about ...

If anyone can prove or disprove my small/large crease assumption that would be great. So come on guys check your AT-ST Drivers!

I'll check the crease on mine for you as my picture in the other thread is one of the ones you're not sure about. I'll also dig out my loose ones.   

   

so ATST Driver can be said is safe???

TW: fat??
No Coo: thin??

How sure are you Patrick?? Especially on the thin one??

I think TW fat is safe now....but the thin would be really new discovery!!

@cantina_patron wrote:

I'll check the crease on mine for you as my picture in the other thread is one of the ones you're not sure about. I'll also dig out my loose ones.   

That would be great Steve, much appreciated!

@wbobafett wrote:

so ATST Driver can be said is safe???

TW: fat??
No Coo: thin??

How sure are you Patrick?? Especially on the thin one??

I think TW fat is safe now....but the thin would be really new discovery!!

Sorry Wolff, I'm not completely sure. Could be thin or maybe flat on the No COOs??? I have to find better pics!!! I'll try again tomorrow ...

@pattejan wrote:

@cantina_patron wrote:

I'll check the crease on mine for you as my picture in the other thread is one of the ones you're not sure about. I'll also dig out my loose ones.   

That would be great Steve, much appreciated!

@wbobafett wrote:

so ATST Driver can be said is safe???

TW: fat??
No Coo: thin??

How sure are you Patrick?? Especially on the thin one??

I think TW fat is safe now....but the thin would be really new discovery!!

Sorry Wolff, I'm not completely sure. Could be thin or maybe flat on the No COOs??? I have to find better pics!!! I'll try again tomorrow ...

Awesome my friend!!!

My tip is flat! Thin is actually "rare" compared to the others if I remeber correctly....and that wouldnt match with ATST Driver.....LOL

But as said: not sure anymore....

I am looking forward to your results! Thank you very very much!!!

Here are some close ups of my carded (Taiwan) and loose AT-ST drivers.  Note No COO on the left and Taiwan on the right. Hope this helps.