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chris.75 TIG Benefactor


Posts : 1336 Join date : 2011-04-03 Age : 47 Location : UK
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Tue Sep 09, 2014 6:29 pm | |
| I could be wrong Nicholas, but I believe the Poch Vader saber should be, a round transition tip variant, therefore a later produced saber. Lettered sabers were produced earlier, found on SW and some early ESB cards. The round transition tip saber can be seen in this pic that Oscar posted, it looks to be the darker orange semi translucent variant, found on some PBP Vader's.  and here is another pic of the darker orange semi translucent saber which came with Greg's blobbed out scar coo PBP Vader. Which i believe is also the same saber variant, that you picked up with your blobbed out coo PBP Vader Nicholas  in this post from the Poch/PBP Guide & Discussion Thread, part 1 ackbar100 posted pics of a possible Poch Ben with saber and a pointed top to the cape Poch on the left, Kenner on the right   But it could be possible that there are kenner capes with a Pointed top as well. here's the link, there are more pics there. https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t4427p465-the-poch-pbp-guide-discussion-threadon the same page are also some of Marco's pics and descriptions of a confirmed Poch Luke Farm Boy. Hope this helps mate |
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M4K3R1 TIG Benefactor


Posts : 605 Join date : 2011-11-25 Age : 49 Location : Oztrailya
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Tue Sep 09, 2014 8:44 pm | |
| I just wanted to say that I love the way Chris and Marco do your posts, very informative, I missed the ben cape post earlier, and just learned something new. Thanks fellas, and please keep it up, well done. |
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Dr Dengar TIG Benefactor


Posts : 7048 Join date : 2010-05-07 Age : 51 Location : The Netherlands
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:28 am | |
| - chiktabba wrote:
- here is another lot I just received. to me, the snowtrooper looks poch (has the mark on shoulder), tusken is not, and don't know about 21B and JAWA. 21B has a melt mark and discolred limbs. jawa has a malt marks on legs, mark in the middle of right arm, and black painting of face is trickeling, and has small eyes and has differences on accessories: blaster has a dot (can't really compare, only got one with peg), and hood has a light brown string compare to other I got. blaster of snowtrooper has a hole I don't have on other similar blaster.
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\ Your Jawa has the small irregular sized eyes. Together with some typical imperfections (melt marks, sloppy paint job). To me it appears you have the POCH variant with the lighter brown bandolier. Kenner (left), POCH (right).  Source for the POCH Jawa with glossy dark face and bandolier: http://swspaceclub.com/wbobafett/poch/poch-variants/ (site seems down for the moment)Yours cape look the same as the Jawa above and Kenneth's cape (below). I can imagine it is not unique for POCH. Same for the blaster.  You can read more here and on the following pages: https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/t4427p390-the-poch-pbp-guide-discussion-thread#92099 |
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Dr Dengar TIG Benefactor


Posts : 7048 Join date : 2010-05-07 Age : 51 Location : The Netherlands
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:36 am | |
| - chiktabba wrote:
 I have a few 2-1Bs from Spain, still left unresearched in terms of paint differences. Most of them (all?) have a damaged (irregular shaped) inner circle in the transparant torso part, like can be seen in yours. Probably a sign the welding conditions were not optimal. So yes, looks good too. |
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Dr Dengar TIG Benefactor


Posts : 7048 Join date : 2010-05-07 Age : 51 Location : The Netherlands
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Wed Sep 10, 2014 2:43 am | |
| - chiktabba wrote:
 That is an interesting mould for an Imperial rifle, one which we haven't on our site yet. https://i.servimg.com/u/f39/18/44/76/78/img_7818.jpg Still I am 95% sure it is not unique for POCH and Kenner counterparts can be found as well. Who has this type of rifle also in their collection? Would be good to have some high resolution pictures as well, for the TIG site. (hint, hint  ) |
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wbobafett Force Addict


Posts : 2515 Join date : 2009-11-20
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Wed Sep 10, 2014 4:33 am | |
| I have those rifles as well....not unique to POCH... ...and why the heck is my site down?? |
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chiktabba Imperial Lieutenant


Posts : 239 Join date : 2013-03-12 Age : 46 Location : Paris France
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Wed Sep 10, 2014 9:59 am | |
| thanks so much for your comment both of you. Really make my day about the jawa I am happy too about 2-1b except I don't see the irregularity about the trasparent middle cercle. the only thing a can see is the melt mark on the picture. would be happy to make better pictures of the riffle for the site if you want. is there something special about the accessories of yoda poch that could help me to confirm mine is really a poch version? |
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javitc Imperial Recruit


Posts : 27 Join date : 2011-08-27 Location : Madrid, Spain
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Fri Sep 12, 2014 7:39 am | |
| Today is time to show you the well known Luke Hoth PBP figure, with two different COOs, and a minor difference in the tonallity of the pale face. The left one with no dots, and the right one with dots between letters LFL. This one is in my top five figures.    |
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chiktabba Imperial Lieutenant


Posts : 239 Join date : 2013-03-12 Age : 46 Location : Paris France
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:27 am | |
| nice pair what is your top five then? |
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javitc Imperial Recruit


Posts : 27 Join date : 2011-08-27 Location : Madrid, Spain
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:31 am | |
| - chiktabba wrote:
- nice pair
what is your top five then? Thank you Let me think... I give you my Top Ten in no particular order: -Bossk toxic Green limbs Poch. -4 Lom red armor PBP. -Chewbacca black pouch Poch. -Luke hoth pale face. -Han solo original Poch. -Bossk fat lips PBP. -Ig-88 red eyes Poch. -Leia organa Poch. -Luke original Poch. -Tie fighter pilot ATAT emblems PBP. Beautifull team dont you think so?  |
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walkie Senior Developer


Posts : 5086 Join date : 2012-11-05 Age : 46 Location : UK
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:50 am | |
| A very nice top 10, sadly I only have 4 of them _________________________________________________ * Wanted: Lili Ledy, Glasslite, Meccano, Kenner Canada Instruction Sheets, $$$$ waiting!! * Visit My Vintage Paperwork Limelight Click Me! * To Visit The Glasslite Guide & Discussion Thread Click Me! Or The Droids Guide & Discussion Thread Click Me!
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Kenneth_B Imperial Lieutenant


Posts : 257 Join date : 2010-12-06 Age : 45 Location : Amager, Denmark
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Fri Sep 12, 2014 12:51 pm | |
| For me it would only work with a top 50 list, since I love as well as all the Poch & PBP variants. For instance some of the other Poch droids like the R5 with dark red leg stribes, the golden C-3PO or the Poch 2-1B with the deeper blue paint on the torso/light silver painted neck & overspayed light silver chest "thing". |
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javitc Imperial Recruit


Posts : 27 Join date : 2011-08-27 Location : Madrid, Spain
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:05 pm | |
| - Kenneth_B wrote:
- For me it would only work with a top 50 list, since I love as well as all the Poch & PBP variants.
For instance some of the other Poch droids like the R5 with dark red leg stribes, the golden C-3PO or the Poch 2-1B with the deeper blue paint on the torso/light silver painted neck & overspayed light silver chest "thing". Thats true, all have someting that makes them unique, I love all of them. And what about the ugnaught Poch, the AT AT driver Poch very White hands and shoulders, Jawa Poch....  |
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Kenneth_B Imperial Lieutenant


Posts : 257 Join date : 2010-12-06 Age : 45 Location : Amager, Denmark
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:01 pm | |
| Yeah especially the Poch Jawa variant with the shiny black face/dark brown bandolier is an amazingly cool variant. Ugnaughts might not be the most significant Poch variants paint wise, but on the other hand they are rare as hell! Personally I also love the Poch Leia Hoth with the black hair, green eye brows (3 line MIHK coo) and many more.... |
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Lee_m Imperial Commander


Posts : 430 Join date : 2010-01-03 Location : Norfolk, UK
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:49 am | |
| Nice figures Javitc. Also worth pointing out is the different subtle face colours you can find on the PBP Luke from pale/white to pinkish through to solid pink on the PBP produced Luke found in France.....and an excuse to show off my PBP Luke's as he's one of my favourite variants .....And here's a question for the eagle eyed variants dudes around here - one of these Luke's has a bit of an anomaly about him....can you spot it? Wolff can email me because i think he knows anyway  - javitc wrote:
- Today is time to show you the well known Luke Hoth PBP figure, with two different COOs, and a minor difference in the tonallity of the pale face.
The left one with no dots, and the right one with dots between letters LFL. This one is in my top five figures.


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chris.75 TIG Benefactor


Posts : 1336 Join date : 2011-04-03 Age : 47 Location : UK
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:12 am | |
| Hmm, does the Luke on the bottom left corner of the pic, have a smaller black pocket on his chest?
Edit: actually scratch that, as it looks like there are three Luke with that sculpt.
Is it that one (top left) has a darker scarf than the rest?
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Dr Dengar TIG Benefactor


Posts : 7048 Join date : 2010-05-07 Age : 51 Location : The Netherlands
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Sat Sep 13, 2014 7:22 am | |
| Lee, pls stop showing off those PBP Luke Hoth figures here. They are blinding my eyes. Just kidding, that is some return after we have missed you a while here. Great! Give it a shot: The pink ones have have received some more black paint (belt, snow goggles, breast pocket [is that an english word? ]) then the pale faced ones. |
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M4K3R1 TIG Benefactor


Posts : 605 Join date : 2011-11-25 Age : 49 Location : Oztrailya
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Sat Sep 13, 2014 10:53 am | |
| Great photo Lee, had no idea there are that many PBP Luke. Im going to go with the top centre, upsidedown Luke with the Kurt Douglas chin dimple.  |
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wbobafett Force Addict


Posts : 2515 Join date : 2009-11-20
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Sat Sep 13, 2014 11:20 am | |
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Lee_m Imperial Commander


Posts : 430 Join date : 2010-01-03 Location : Norfolk, UK
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Sun Sep 14, 2014 9:50 am | |
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Dr Dengar TIG Benefactor


Posts : 7048 Join date : 2010-05-07 Age : 51 Location : The Netherlands
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:09 am | |
| Nice challenge, Lee.
Give it another shot, now aiming on the left Luke with pale face. The left arm seems less detailed compared to the right arm, so maybe he has a soft plastic (left) and hard plastic (right) arm?
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Commander Clint TIG Benefactor


Posts : 1996 Join date : 2012-04-10 Age : 53 Location : Cambridge, Ontario, Canada
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Sun Sep 14, 2014 10:13 am | |
| The thing that sticks out for me, is the top of the goggles and around the neck are painted white. But the top pink face one is as well. The others are all tan plastic colour. |
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chris.75 TIG Benefactor


Posts : 1336 Join date : 2011-04-03 Age : 47 Location : UK
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:21 am | |
| [quote="Lee_m"]  Is his chest emblem smaller than the others? Plus the scarf knot on the right side of his helmet, looks larger than on the other figures, but it could be just shadow? Edit: ha ha, just noticed that I had already guessed about his chest emblem on the other page  too much beer 
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Nico TIG Benefactor


Posts : 1460 Join date : 2013-03-22 Location : Wirral, UK
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Sun Sep 14, 2014 11:35 am | |
| Does the pale face Luke on the left have two left arms ? |
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walkie Senior Developer


Posts : 5086 Join date : 2012-11-05 Age : 46 Location : UK
 | Subject: Re: THE POCH/PBP GUIDE & DISCUSSION THREAD, PART 2 Sun Sep 14, 2014 1:01 pm | |
| Welcome back Lee. I'm liking the idea of a euro/no coo discussion thread. _________________________________________________ * Wanted: Lili Ledy, Glasslite, Meccano, Kenner Canada Instruction Sheets, $$$$ waiting!! * Visit My Vintage Paperwork Limelight Click Me! * To Visit The Glasslite Guide & Discussion Thread Click Me! Or The Droids Guide & Discussion Thread Click Me!
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