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PostSubject: kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions    kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions  I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 22, 2015 10:58 am

hey , I just recently acquired my first vc jawa . im very excited to put it mildly . just wanted opinions on it as I don't want to get it graded but need to be certain its right on all aspects . I trust the person I acquired it from but just need some reassurance as I was always led to believe they were not released with this coo stamp or a blue gun or smaller eyes ??,the cape has a tiny crosshatch pattern and is smooth inside , I believe it to be 100% legit its the figure I have questions about and cant seem to get any answers on any other forums im on .thanks for the help kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions  Photo_2


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PostSubject: Re: kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions    kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions  I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 23, 2015 1:27 pm

I'm on my mobile, but I have to say it looks good to me from a distance. Is there the cross hatch pattern? Any concerns?

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PostSubject: Re: kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions    kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions  I_icon_minitimeMon Mar 23, 2015 10:02 pm

It looks good to me from what I know the cape is suppose to match the figure colour which it looks like it does to me. I would say your good I am sure that one of the guys here who has one will chime in.
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PostSubject: Re: kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions    kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions  I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 24, 2015 7:31 am

yes cape has a crosshatch pattern on it , smooth inside . its the figure that concerns me . the eyes arent close together and the coo looks off , were they released with the hong kong higher than the date stamp ?? also the blue gun as ive heard they were only released with black
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PostSubject: Re: kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions    kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions  I_icon_minitimeTue Mar 24, 2015 7:50 am

It is not the mould family (bandolier type) normally associated with the VC.
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PostSubject: Re: kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions    kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions  I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 26, 2015 8:30 pm

that's where my question lies, the rest looks legit to me its the jawa itself correct? should I just get a larger eyes jawa and put the cape on him with the correct coo ??? so confusing please help :scratch: :I am stupid:
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PostSubject: Re: kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions    kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions  I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 26, 2015 8:36 pm

IMO you want to match the cape up to a figure that has ALL these things:
'big eyes'
either leg marking where Hong Kong is closer to his foot than the copyright symbol
and this Bandolier pattern ( the stonehenge thing- three uprights with a top, the middle upright it slimmer )
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PostSubject: Re: kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions    kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions  I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 26, 2015 8:46 pm

the cape looks good though and matches the signs ive read about . im pretty confused as why a legit cape would end up on a figure like this ?? there is a vc jawa on ebay right now without a cape that I will try to win to match the cape its just that I don't feel for the money I spent I should have to do this :scratch: :scratch: man this sucks I wonder how the figure got switched
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PostSubject: Re: kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions    kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions  I_icon_minitimeThu Mar 26, 2015 9:18 pm

Legit capes get swapped around, it was common practice to 'upgrade' figures into capes. I found my TT cape on Leia Hoth!!!
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PostSubject: Re: kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions    kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions  I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 27, 2015 7:58 am

@hellhippie wrote:
the cape looks good though and matches the signs ive read about . im pretty confused as why a legit cape would end up on a figure like this ?? there is a vc jawa on ebay right now without a cape that I will try to win to match the cape its just that I don't feel for the money I spent I should have to do this :scratch: :scratch:  man this sucks I wonder how the figure got switched

Hello hippie, sorry to see you bummed out about your figure, getting your first vc jawa should be a fun experience. I've got a bunch of "correct" jawas lying around that fit James's description just  drop me a pm with your adress and i'll send one over Smile

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PostSubject: Re: kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions    kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions  I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 27, 2015 10:30 am

Dieter what is your opinion on the 'correct' figure if there is one?

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PostSubject: Re: kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions    kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions  I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 27, 2015 10:42 am

This is what I have always used as a reference for VC Jawa's :

http://web.ncf.ca/cn333/vcjawa.htm
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PostSubject: Re: kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions    kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions  I_icon_minitimeFri Mar 27, 2015 10:56 am

the cape matches all criteria , crosshatch pattern , pointed corners at bottom , smooth inside , quarter inch from bottom of figure(approx.),  tight armhole fit :cool laugh: . I have seen that sigt before and was the one I referenced before making the purchase............ thanks for the glasslite leia off ebay chicken!!!! cheers
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PostSubject: Re: kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions    kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions  I_icon_minitimeSun Mar 29, 2015 12:41 pm

@aussiejames wrote:
Dieter what is your opinion on the 'correct' figure if there is one?


Tricky question for me because it's in my nature to always doubt what i think i know Laughing , judging by my own collection of loose vcj's and online pictures of carded examples it should be the figure in your picture with coo 1a or 1b  on wolff's coo guidehttp://swspaceclub.com/wbobafett/coo-guide-3-0/anh/jawa/#a.
but to be honest i have not seen enough carded vc jawas in hand to be absolutely sure the other figures never appeared with a vinyl cape and i highly doubt that the people that have actually had enough of them in hand (like graders working for AFA) are even aware of the subtle differences between the different mould families.

This first shot http://theswca.com/index.php?action=disp_item&item_id=73129 suggests that coo family II figures were around when Kenner made the switch from no cape to vinyl cape and here's an example of an AFA graded moc that makes me doubt what i thought i knew about vc jawas
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/image2049.jpg
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/image2050.jpg
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/image2048.jpg
http://forum.rebelscum.com/photogallery/data/500/medium/image2051.jpg
It's hard to tell from the pictures but the eye paint and thumb make it look more like a coo family III figure and the blister flange is much larger than it should be http://web.ncf.ca/cn333/vcjawa.htm unsure

Value wise it really doesn't matter what figure the cape is on, you are paying for the vinyl jawa cape so as long as the cape is legit it's worth the price you pay. If the figure is correct or not really depends on how you collect, for minty high grade AFA pieces the correct figure is the mintiest possible figure as long as it's not the no coo version and if you try to keep it historicly correct based on the majority of information that's available online coo family I is the best way to go.
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PostSubject: Re: kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions    kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions  I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 23, 2015 5:22 am

Just wanted to say thanks dieter!!! Only in this hobby would a person send you a gift to complete your collection... Dieter sent me the correct jawa for my cape ... Im eternally grateful thank you ... Bill
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PostSubject: Re: kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions    kenner vinyl cape jawa opinions  I_icon_minitimeThu Apr 23, 2015 3:11 pm

Congrats Bill. That's a great gesture from Dieter cheers

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Just wanted to say thanks dieter!!! Only in this hobby would a person send you a gift to complete your collection... Dieter sent me the correct jawa for my cape ... Im eternally grateful thank you ... Bill

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