Guys - What are your opinions on my German/pbp(?) Han's.

Left hand Han has slightly more flesh/pinkish hands and neck.
The hue in his face is marginally darker and his hair is glossy brown.

Right hand Han has creamier/whiter hands and neck.
The face colour is slightly lighter and his hair is significantly different with
a more auburn brown colour to it.

The coo's appear to be the same/very similar to me.

They both have that beautiful sweet pbp plastic smell

Hey Lee,
That figures are rare to me to be PBP, i mean
-THe coo match with pbp
-the smell too
-the white hands

-BUT the paint job on PBP is very singular and doesent match with your both Hans, just my oppinion....
Also the hair colour looks like some kind of burn dark reddish but the PBP is more green to me.
Wher did you found that Hans? UK? maybe the are palitoy variant???
Honesty,If i just read your description i will say"PBP 100%" but seeing the picts i have some doubts;)

Lee,look at the paint job on the real Han PBP face

Also ithink the hands are more white

Thanks for your opinion Javi

They both came from the UK - i think Uli showed me a pic of a trilogo card
with what looked like the fig on the left (facially anyway) - the one on the right
i have since got and i agree that his facial features are certainly different to your
PBP but as you can see the hair colour really is quite a different colour plus they
both have that lovely smell....

Anyone else with Han's like these?

I assume the Han Solos were also released on some Palitoy Cards.
That "PBP" Bossk for example was not only released on German 45backs, but also on some Palitoy 45back single stem blister cards.

Regarding Javis list:
I can confirm a PBP AT-AT Driver on a Tri-Logo card.

@Lee_m wrote:

Thanks for your opinion Javi

They both came from the UK - i think Uli showed me a pic of a trilogo card
with what looked like the fig on the left (facially anyway) - the one on the right
i have since got and i agree that his facial features are certainly different to your
PBP but as you can see the hair colour really is quite a different colour plus they
both have that lovely smell....

Anyone else with Han's like these?

SO i guess they are Palitoy variants , IMO

@mike-skywalker wrote:

I assume the Han Solos were also released on some Palitoy Cards.
That "PBP" Bossk for example was not only released on German 45backs, but also on some Palitoy 45back single stem blister cards.

Regarding Javis list:
I can confirm a PBP AT-AT Driver on a Tri-Logo card.

Mike, hows things mate?
i m happy to see you in this thread !
i will update the preliminary list with your info
Cheers my friend!!

@Idefix13 wrote:

A wild theory about the 'PBP' Scout: This figure is very common in Spain (at times I collected variants more active I had about 5 or 6 in my hands (all spares are gone)) and I have never seen it anywhere else. So could it be that the figure was sold exclusively in the Colgate set in Spain?
The mould of the figure is very close to the Macao mould. You can find both types of the Macao moulding (space between made in and scar) at the Spanish Scout.
Maybe made the factory in Macao a stock of figures only for the Colgate promotion? After they finished this stock they put a 'Macao' inside the mould and produced the Macao variant.
As for the different paint job of the Macao and 'PBP' Scout - they maybe shipped unpainted figures and / or parts to Spain.
It could also be that they removed the Macao out of the scar in Spain... (removing coos by hand was pretty "in" in Spain at that time).

Uli
P.S. If I'm right with my theory we have a Colgate Biker

The macao bikers were on the market BEFORE the PBP. YOu can clearly still read the Macao in some PBP scars....so IMO very clear!



Also IMO the PBP 3PO is exclusiv. You can define him very clear from every Ledy.

This figure should be also red lined!

Wolff

@wbobafett wrote:

Also IMO the PBP 3PO is exclusiv. You can define him very clear from every Ledy.

This figure should be also red lined!

Wolff

I thought same as you on the 3po PBP(I wish the 3po genuine to PBP ) but i can see major differences PBP /LL,
can you please ulustrated me Wolff?

@javiswspain wrote:

@wbobafett wrote:

Also IMO the PBP 3PO is exclusiv. You can define him very clear from every Ledy.

This figure should be also red lined!

Wolff

I thought same as you on the 3po PBP(I wish the 3po genuine to PBP ) but i can see major differences PBP /LL,
can you please ulustrated me Wolff?

Ill make some tomorrow and will check further details like material screw and so on....I have 2 pbps now and 4 ledys...so this will be good point to start!

Wolff

oh man can't wait for tommorw all this is totally fascinating javi you always seem to wow me with your pbp pic's can't wait until wolff post's his pic's it'll be like christmas for me.sweet.Dan.

Fantastic thread guys love it!

I posted this on Uli's FS thread on the discussion there but i think it needs adding here -

The light green Walrusman (PBP/Meccano whatever) was also released on Kenner ROTJ Made in Spain cards.

ya i think that is the figure uli is looking for the mecanno/PBP.the one all the way to the right from wolff's pic.shit if someone find's that figure put me on the list as well i want one of those too.Dan.

@mike-skywalker wrote:

The light green Walrusman (PBP/Meccano whatever) was also released on Kenner ROTJ Made in Spain cards.

Thanks for the info MIke, i will update the list with it
Cheers
Javi

LIst updated to 06/04

4-LOM red armor. PBP CONFIRMED EXCLUSIVE
AT-AT Commander Pale face /scar coo. CONFIRMED on PBP and TRI cards
AT-AT Driver ,Hard torso /Made in + scar coo PBP/TRI CONFIRMED
Ben (Obi-Wan) Kenobi .CONFIRMED on PBP and LILI LEDY cards
Bespin security guard scar coo CONFIRMED on PBP cards
Biker Scout CONFIRMED on PBP and Colgate Promotion
Boba Fett Ligth blue /unapinted knee scar coo.MAYBE PBP? CONFIRMED on MECCANO,TRI and PALITOY cards
Bossk hard torso/fat lips/sacr coo.MAYBE PBP and MECCANO?CONFIRMED on GERMAN and PALITOY cards
C-3P0 screw on back CONFIRMED on PBP and LILI LEDY cards
Chewbacca CONFIRMED on PBP and TRI cards
Cloud Car Pilot scar coo/withe face /pink face PBP CONFIRMED
Darth Vader scar coo PBP/CLIPPER?/TRI? NOT CONFIRMED
Dengar PBP/ TRI CONFIRMED
Gamorrean Guard PBP NOT CONFIRMED
General Madine PBP NOT CONFIRMED
Greedo scar coo PBP NOT CONFIRMED
Hammerhead scar coo PBP NOT CONFIRMED
Han Solo PBP CONFIRMED
Han Solo(Original)white hands.Paint job variant on Palitoy confirmed, German cards confirmed, Trilogo cards Not confirmed
Han Solo Hoth white/pink face Made in +scra PBP/ TRI/ PALITOY/CLIPER CONFIRMED
Han Solo Hoth dark panths PBP? NOT CONFIRMED
Imperial Commander scar coo PBP/LILI LEDY NOT CONFIRMED
Imperial Stormtrooper (Hoth Battle Gear) PBP/YPS/TRI CONFIRMED
Jawa PBP? NOT CONFIRMED
Lando Calrissian scar coo PBP /TRI NOT CONFIRMED
Lando Calrissian black neck PBP(Both versions smille/no smille) CONFIRMED
Luke Skywalker farmboy PBP NOT CONFIRMED
Luke Skywalker in Bespin Fatigues PBP/PALITOY CONFIRMED
Luke Skywalker Hoth PBP CONFIRMED
Luke Skywalker X-Wing Pilot white face PBP/TRI/PALITOY NOT CONFIRMED
Power Droid Poder PBP? NOT CONFIRMED
Princess Leia Organa Boushh red hair and face details PBP NOT CONFIRMED
Rebel Commander black boots PBP CONFIRMED
Rebel Soldier in Hoth Battle Gear Dark brown White face PBP CONFIRMED
Rebel Soldier in Hoth Battle Gear painted panths PBP NOT CONFIRMED
Rebel Soldier in Hoth Battle Gear Dark brown pink face PBP/TRI/MECCANO NOT CONFIRMED
Snaggletooth scar coo PBP NOT CONFIRMED
Star Destroyer Commander (Death Squad Commander)Hard torso/glossy paint MIHK PBP NOT CONFIRMED
Stormtrooper PBP CONFIRMED
TIE Fighter Pilot PBP/MECCANO/TRI?NOT CONFIRMED
Walrus Man Light green no marks PBP/Meccano/Made In SPAIN KENNER CARDS CONFIRMED
Walrus Man Dark green scar coo PBP CONFIRMED
Weequay PBP NOT CONFIRMED
Yoda PBP/LILI LEDY CONFIRMED

LEYEND
RED : Poch/PBP variants exclusive confirmed

I can confirm a PBP Chewbacca with the remaining "D" on a Trilogo Card.


What about the PBP Dengar? He was definately released on Trilogo cards.

@mike-skywalker wrote:

I can confirm a PBP Chewbacca with the remaining "D" on a Trilogo Card.


What about the PBP Dengar? He was definately released on Trilogo cards.

ThanKs again Mike !
Jaymassive have a Dengar whithe face (PBP) on tri card , so its consfirmed
Cheers
Javi

I know I promised pics...but my camera says E18.....WTF????

I think its defect.

Wolff

Can anyone ID this Datestamp/COO scar? (Han Solo 1977) ...

https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/users/3011/13/96/10/album/han7710.jpg

@The Admiral wrote:

Can anyone ID this Datestamp/COO scar? (Han Solo 1977) ...

https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/users/3011/13/96/10/album/han7710.jpg

Hi Rob

I can't give you his origin but i have one and mine came from
the states...Wollf has him in his coo list as well, so there must be a few out there..

Ah Cheers for the info Lee

here are mine:

IMO, THey look the same as Lee´s Hans, palitoy/german manufacture.
What about comparision shot PBP/LL 3PO Wollf?

man, once i finish my ledy collection which will be soon.i'll probably start collecting PBP full bore.i don't know if i have the courage. my bank account is scared. Dan :nailbiting: :nailbiting: :nailbiting: :nailbiting: :nailbiting: