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PostSubject: Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo.   Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 13, 2010 2:51 pm

here are my complete collection of hardtorso stormtrooper's.Does anyone have any other's that are different to add to this.i thought it would be helpful for everyone to see what one's are what.Dan cheers cheers cheers cheers
first up two tri-logo hard torso's they have the same leg coo but have different looking chest's i beleive these are two different version's of the same figure.
Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. New_ar11
Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. New_ar12
Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. New_ar13
Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. New_ar14
Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. New_ar15
up next is my lily ledy stormie.
Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. New_ar16
Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. New_ar17
Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. New_ar18
Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. New_ar19
up next is my PBP stormy.
Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. Ll_gam15
Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. Ll_gam16
Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. Ll_gam17
Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. Ll_gam18
Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. Ll_gam19
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PostSubject: Re: Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo.   Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. I_icon_minitimeTue Apr 13, 2010 4:17 pm

oke , noob question , hard torso , what's the differences with regular torso

dnt tell me it's made out of harder materials

that sounds pretty obvieus

i think ive read somewhere about a snowtrooper with a hardtorso beeing specificly from germany ( yps )

can someone teach me how to spot a hard torso , thanks in advance
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PostSubject: Re: Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo.   Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. I_icon_minitimeSat Apr 24, 2010 10:38 pm

I think i need Wolff to explain this.

Wolff knows the technical side of thing's better than me and he know's how to word it better.

Let me pray to Wolff and he'll come.

Wolff i need you buddy.We need the proper explanation of the Hardtorso verse non Hardtorso.I know you've explained it alot but one more time Buddy. bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow bow
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PostSubject: Re: Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo.   Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. I_icon_minitimeSun Apr 25, 2010 12:15 am

Since Wolff is not arround let me try to explain it...

Imo they used a different plastic and so the details come out much sharper. Personally I don't like the therm "hard plastic" since it is pretty misleading.

A therm like "high detailed figure" would be much more accurate.

I hope this helps.

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Uli thank's for chiming in Bro.

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Good description Uli. I find most plastics hard.
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@Tank1252 wrote:
Good description Uli. I find most plastics hard.

Yep and some plastic is also hard to get Very Happy
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Jimmy and Dan,

I already explained the hard torso term in this thread:
https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/vintage-chat-f1/star-wars-collecting-101-qa-thread-t832-15.htm

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@jimmymindtricks wrote:
posted this question elswhere today on tig , but i guess i might find an answer here sooner,

hard torso's what are they , who are they , what do they look like, how to spot one next to a useall torso

wher do they come from , and is it contages , what's the difference in price , are they more rare , or does it depends where you live

also what fig has hard torso's or does every chracter have a hard and soft torso

pic's would great

thanks in advance jimmymindtricks

to many questions at once mate!!! Laughing

Hards torso is called so, because the material is different to other use materials. All hard torsos are sharper deatiled. The white hard tosros figures normally look like painted white.
Hard torsos were produced in the later production. Lots of firms produced hard torso figures:
1. LILI LEDY
2. PBP

and lots of TRILOGO and PALITOY figures as well.

I think the europeans used this material, because it doesnt yellow so easy as the normal material...but thats just a theorie. Ledy seemed to use a different chemical material...they seem to yellow more easy.....though.

The Hardtorso figures smell more vinatge...if you know what I mean.

(and BTW: there is also hard limbs figures as well.....these normally go with hard torso figs.....but not every hard torso figures has hard limbs Wink )

hope this helps.

BTW: I have a hard torso r2 sensorscope for sale......

I think there you can see very well what a hard torso looks like:

Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. Img_5411

Wolff


I like the term hard and soft torso. For me it exactly descirbes the look from the figures:

soft (or slobbery) details and hard (or sharp) details.


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and this plastic can get you in troubleStormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. D1_2_2_3wg

The tri-logo Stormie's are both hard Torso variant's. One has a creamier color chest.


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Ah there he is.Wolff

I thought you were'nt gonna be home today.You were going to look at porche's lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!

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That's my new favourite description: slobbery detail variant Razz
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hi dan,

just in for a few minutes before I drive my porsche the whole day Laughing

Hmmm you are right....just watched a sec...they are both hard torso.


BTW: the hard torso is indeed harder material. It cracks very easy! Mainly on shoulder and neck. Its waaaaay stiffer then the other material used. U could make a tension-test, like made on all used materials in the research area in some firms.....I bet this material would crack under way lower load then the fromer used material!

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James wasup my brother.
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@aussiejames wrote:
That's my new favourite description: slobbery detail variant Razz

LOL....hope I find the right "word" to explain.... (thats what dictionray says to the german equivalent I searched for)
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Yo Wolff is this the one.
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no this one:
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Lol. Very Happy
That has got the A/C option tho Wolff.
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lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol! lol!



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no this one:
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@wbobafett wrote:
Jimmy and Dan,

I already explained the hard torso term in this thread:
https://www.imperialgunneryforum.com/vintage-chat-f1/star-wars-collecting-101-qa-thread-t832-15.htm

@wbobafett wrote:
@jimmymindtricks wrote:
posted this question elswhere today on tig , but i guess i might find an answer here sooner,

hard torso's what are they , who are they , what do they look like, how to spot one next to a useall torso

wher do they come from , and is it contages , what's the difference in price , are they more rare , or does it depends where you live

also what fig has hard torso's or does every chracter have a hard and soft torso

pic's would great

thanks in advance jimmymindtricks

to many questions at once mate!!! Laughing

Hards torso is called so, because the material is different to other use materials. All hard torsos are sharper deatiled. The white hard tosros figures normally look like painted white.
Hard torsos were produced in the later production. Lots of firms produced hard torso figures:
1. LILI LEDY
2. PBP

and lots of TRILOGO and PALITOY figures as well.

I think the europeans used this material, because it doesnt yellow so easy as the normal material...but thats just a theorie. Ledy seemed to use a different chemical material...they seem to yellow more easy.....though.

The Hardtorso figures smell more vinatge...if you know what I mean.

(and BTW: there is also hard limbs figures as well.....these normally go with hard torso figs.....but not every hard torso figures has hard limbs Wink )

hope this helps.

BTW: I have a hard torso r2 sensorscope for sale......

I think there you can see very well what a hard torso looks like:

Stormtrooper hardtorso variation's.PBP,Ledy,Tri-Logo. Img_5411

Wolff


I like the term hard and soft torso. For me it exactly descirbes the look from the figures:

soft (or slobbery) details and hard (or sharp) details.
I am completly agree with you Wolff...
IMO the called hard torso /TRI is not the same plastic as hard torso LL/PBP.Also i need to add that the PBP storme is the only one that have hard torso and limbs Wink
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Sweet.Good info Javi.I luv it when i can learn something new.Thank's Bud.Danny. cheers cheers
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